We did not meet MD, but instead, Walt. I never got a feel from my visit whether they would be more or less forthcoming with information. But, when I was there (Nov. 20, 2008), there were supposed start the soft start a week or so after we toured. Obviously this didn't happen. There have been major delays in getting this up and running. No one questions that. I assume the delays in PR are attributed to MD making sure his PR money is well spent and t's are crossed before doing so. If you owned a business that had to constantly dilute shares to raise money, would you waste money on meaningless PR. No, you would wait until you had something seriuos to report. I feel that's what MD is doing. The next PR will be killer!!