Thanks Paulness for the link <A HREF="http://archives.warpradio.com/btr/AmericanScene/080310.MP3" target="_blank">http://archives.warpradio.com/btr/AmericanScene/080310.MP3</A> it starts at 18.22 into the program for anyone else who would like to here it. Very exciting next few months. Tatonkano