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Re: captain_ameritrade post# 72409

Saturday, 04/04/2009 1:19:06 PM

Saturday, April 04, 2009 1:19:06 PM

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wnbd's product sells for $8-$9 RETAIL ,,,

Which means that The Retailer is paying Less Than $3

And that Includes the cost of shipping/handling/packaging
to get it to the Big Box Distribution Center , and then
they have to re-ship+handle to get it to each retail store.

And, the numbers are even worse for smaller retail stores ,
that must buy through Intermediate Distributors , who also
must make an ~20% Mark-up to cover their expenses/profits.

Thus ; the wnbd product Must be Grossing $2 per can to wnbd
as it leaves SureFil , on its way to Orgil or any Big Box.

But ; SureFil Has to make a Profit , After its own costs of
materials [ingredients/cans/labels/etc] + labor + overhead
+ taxes + etc's.

Bottom-Line #1 : The Gross Revenue to wnbd can't possibly be
even 50 cents per bottle. They would be lucky to get 25 cents.

Then ; wnbd has to pay all of their own 'execs' + overhead
+ rent + utilities + advertising + conventions + travel +
financing costs + etc's. And, ALL of those costs Go UP ,
if wnbd sells more stuff , and has more customers.

Even the wnbd CEO still admits that wnbd's Gross Revenues
are still Less Than $1 Million per year [ = "Phase #1" ] ,
and have been stuck there for 3+ years , even with more than
1 year of sales through 2 Canadian big boxes.

Bottom-Line #2 : Dilution of wnbd commons Must continue for
at least 5 more years ; until wnbd can get its Gross Revenues
up to ~$27 Million [which is 'the middle of Phase #4] ;
ACCORDING TO THE wnbd CEO's OWN 6-PHASE BUSINESS PLAN.

Then ; there is the problem of 'cannibalization'. Especially
if they add Any big box customers. Because they Always demand
a lower price [from wnbd] , to have a lower retail sales
price , which eliminates any retail sales that previously
had been going through smaller stores , like paint + hardware
+ grocery + laundromats + anywhere else.

Also ; the wnbd product is not even a 'repeat item' for 99+%
of its probable retail customers. Because Hardly Anyone
Actually Uses Up A 32 ounce can of stain remover.

But, if it accidentally becomes an annoyance to the big boys
who already own the stain-remover market ; they will just
buy a can of wnbd stuff , and have their chemists ~copy it ,
in a minute. In fact, they probably already have even better
stuff ready-to-go , when necessary , to meet new Eco-Laws ,
which are quickly leaking across the U.S. States + The World.

A good analogy is "Big Oil". They can afford to pay Big
Lobbyist , Big Bucks , to 'convince' Big Politicians to go
'slow' + leave loop-holes. Meanwhile, they already paid
Big Research bucks to 'almost fully develop' ~Alternative
sources of energy. They are just Not As Profitable Today ,
so Big Oil keeps paying a little , to keep the ball stalled ,
and/or rolling slowly , and even backwards when possible.

And , "Big Stain" will be No Different. P&G will Not allow
pink wnbd to steal any meaningful market share, anywhere in
the World. However, they might decide that it is quicker ,
and more cost effective , and less 'disruptive' to their
current ~monopoly , to just 'buy-out' the wnbd execs , if
ever even necessary. Which is a big 'if' ; because in this
sinking World Economy , it is much more unlikely than ever
that an always-money-losing-foreign-pinky can keep selling
enough new common shares , to avoid BK for 5-10 more years.

But, it could happen, if the wnbd longs keep buying+holding.
So, then comes the big wnbd sell-out , to P&G or who-ever.
And, that's where the last remaining wnbd longs will finally
learn the importance of Share Structure ; why wnbd Must keep
it their biggest secret. Not only to Always Keep Total
Control of Any 'Vote' , but also to keep the wnbd longs
buying new common 'shares' , and believing that they might
actually 'own' a barely meaningful 'share' of a company that
may , in a few years , be profitable. And 'buy-back' common
shares , and start reporting to the SEC , and up-list to the
NYSE , and make all remaining wnbd fans into overnight
multi-millionaires , after only 10 years of averaging-down.
Just like 0.00001% or less , of all previous pinkys , that
all had 'believable' business plans , and enough believers ,
for a short time.

extra , Sincerely .

P.S. ; The wnbd fans really should do some Independently
Verifiable Real 'dd' [like we did, with a P.I.] regarding
the Real wnbd Share Structure ; Especially :

1] How come wnbd has 5 Billion Authorized Shares ,
for many years ? [And, what if they 'vote' for an increase ?]

2] What do the wnbd "Preferreds" really OWN , in terms of
their fair 'share' of ALL wnbd Votes + Assets ? [And, can
they 'vote' themselves as many more as they ever want ;
~legally , and ~ for free , whenever it might be ~worth it ,
like right before they 'vote' to sell-out to P&G ?]

3] How can More Than $1 Million 'worth' of new wnbd common
shares keep floating in ? [By the way; the '144 Rule' was
changed, a year ago. Used-to-be 1 year, now it's 6 months,
for New ones. The old wnbd Restricteds 'timed-out' long ago.]
Our calculations indicate that $5-$10 Million 'worth' of new
wnbd common 'shares' have floated in , in less than 3 years,
since wnbd started 'trading' , and floating. The 504 is NOT
the only way to float. Toxic CD's are much easier. Especially
for a Totally NON-Reporting pinky , that's Not based in the
U.S.A. , far away from the SEC + any U.S. Court.

4] What IS "The wnbd Group" , Legally + By Definition ?
And, why was it 'set-up' ; without ANY Explanation ?

5] Who actually has Any 'ownership' share of SureFil ?
And, does SureFil [or Any other wnbd 'contractor'] pay Any
'commissions' to Anyone [personally], on Any of the 'work'
that they ever do [or did] for wnbd ?

6] There's even more. But, the above is more than enough
homework , for now. And, those who dig out the Verifiable
Answers to the above Questions #1-#5 , will easily keep
finding 'even more' , without any extra homework.

extra , Really extra-Sincerely .

By the way. Last week was refreshing here in wnbd-land.
It seems like a few of the big wnbd fans finally started
asking a few extra questions. [day-ja-voo]
If this continues , they may even dig out a few answers ,
and force the wnbd CEO to 'reveal' a little more ; with
a little less confusingness in the wordingness of those
personal memo letters to special common wnbd fans.

Recently , we learned a little about wnbd's currently Gross
Revenues ; via "1 bottle every 2 minutes" ; and , last week
we learned a little about 'the 504 protocol' , that wnbd
uses to dilute its common shareholders. Maybe next week ,
somebody will ask him about "The Preferreds" , or Toxic CD's ,
or "The wnbd Group" , or "How come there's 5 Billion A/S" ?
But, we suggest, Not All at once. He may get suspicious ,
that the 'competitors' doth protest + know too much, already.

Averaging-Down is profitable for shorters, only [and All pinky CEOs].