Lowman
I may not always agree with everything you post. For example, I don't agree that "CTGI at .08-.10 is a much safer haven for $$ than anything else I know of." I'm still holding CTGI, but there are clearly "safer havens" for peoples' money today, even among the pennies.
Nevertheless, one thing I appreciate about you, Lowman, is your "golden rule" ethics.
One reason that the financial world has collapsed is because there are too many people who are willing to do something to others that they would never want done to themselves or to people they love: consciously trying to create an atmosphere, or worse, illegally engineering circumstances, to profit from what will end up resulting in great loss to countless people.
Anyone who engages in such behavior is purely and simply a liar and a heartless thief. This kind of selfish behavior has ruined the world of investing. We read about or watch it on TV all the time are disgusted. We recognize it for what it is.
It is evil. There is no other word for it. And there is not one single person on this board who disagree with me. For if this evil was to happen to you, you would recognize it immediately. So don't cry "foul," or "off with their heads," if you are engaging in similar behavior.
I am proposing something revolutionary to people who visit and/or post on this board: be honest and treat others the way you want to be treated.
And remember:
"A man's character is his fate." Heraclitus (c.540-c.480BC)