Hmmmm brainlessone....SIMPLY PUT .....Don't quite follow your message and what it means....but I will try and make it simple 1 - DOW hits high of 14279 on Oct/11/07 2- Golden Ratio suggests a retrace/correction to .382 always 3- 14279 X .382 = 5454 Thats as simple as it gets and I hope it helps you and others with your forecasting of the future for DOW.