4k. I see the same data you see, Many others see the same data you see. You ALONE see things no one else does. Its not that I don't understand your post. Its I do not agree with what you say. Nite is on the ask. So? nite is on the ask of MANY penny stocks. Manipulation? Maybe. NSS? From what I have seen, the more NSS is brought up, the bigger the dilution and the bigger bags the ones claiming NSS are holding. Just my observations from many years of trading the penny pigs.