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Re: yayaa post# 74005

Tuesday, 01/27/2009 2:36:04 AM

Tuesday, January 27, 2009 2:36:04 AM

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yayaa -- of course, the article you linked does not report any of that

and re what that article does report:

from
Top Myths About Closing Guantanamo
January 26, 2009
http://pr.thinkprogress.org/2009/01/pr20090126 :

MYTH #4 -- 61 RELEASED DETAINEES HAVE RETURNED TO THE BATTLEFIELD: One conservative talking point that has been especially effective at making its way into traditional media reporting is that 61 "of the people that were incarcerated at Guantanamo and then released have returned to the battlefield, have engaged in further terrorist activities," as CNN's Pentagon correspondent Barbara Starr said yesterday. The Associated Press has made a similar claim [ http://www.kansascity.com/449/story/995868.html ]. But in fact, as Media Matters has reported, "according to the Pentagon, the 61-detainee figure includes 43 former prisoners who are suspected of, but have not been confirmed as [ http://mediamatters.org/items/200901220014 ], having 'return[ed] to the fight.'" Bergen has also noted that "returning to the fight" could simply mean writing a negative op-ed [ http://mediamatters.org/countyfair/200901240004 ]. Mark Denbeaux, Director of the Seton Hall Law School Center for Policy and Research, has been tracking the Bush administration's claims. He told MSNBC's Rachel Maddow, "Their numbers have changed from 20 to 12 to seven to more than five to two to a couple to a few -- 25, 29, 12 to 24. Every time, the number has been different [ http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/28752222/ ]. In fact, every time they give a number, they don't identify a date, a place, a time, a name or an incident to support their claim."

from
Security experts skeptical on Gitmo detainee report
January 24, 2009
http://edition.cnn.com/2009/POLITICS/01/24/gitmo.detainees/
[also at http://www.truthout.org/012509C ]:

Peter Bergen, a national security expert and CNN analyst, notes that of the 18 people the Pentagon says are confirmed to have engaged in terrorism, only a handful of names have been released.

If one accepts that all 18 on the "confirmed" list have returned to the battlefield, that would be 4 percent of the detainees who have been released, Bergen said.

Bergen also noted Federal Bureau of Justice Statistics data that show the recidivism rate for U.S. state prisoners who have been released is more than 65 percent. Those same numbers show that about half of the released prisoners are returned to prison.

Bergen said that some of the prisoners at Guantanamo may not have been terrorists at all but were singled out by vengeful villagers who told U.S. authorities they were al Qaeda.

"We know that a lot of people who were in Guantanamo don't qualify as being the 'worst of the worst,'" he said, quoting former Defense Secretary Donald Rumsfeld's assessment.

Bergen said some of those "suspected" to have returned to terrorism are so categorized because they publicly made anti-American statements, "something that's not surprising if you've been locked up in a U.S. prison camp for several years."


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