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Thursday, 12/18/2008 3:36:55 PM

Thursday, December 18, 2008 3:36:55 PM

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Speaking of investment ideas: Should be some screaming buys when the dust settles.

Everything is being taken down, the good, the bad, the ugly. Partly this is because no one is sure which is which right now. The rating agencies have been shown to be worthless.

Nevertheless, good companies will survive. People will always be buying goods and services. I'm looking at top rated corporate bonds right now. They've been dumped for cash. Not too sure how to play this, must be investment rated corporate bond funds and ETFs. Vanguard has one.

Not risk free but after the year end, most of the failed bonds should be marked down and tossed.

John Mauldin Dec. 13, 2008
Free Money with that Credit Default Swap?

Today there are bonds you can buy and get the interest coupon, and then purchase a credit default swap (insurance) on the loan that is less than the interest you will get on the loan. Assuming you have a creditworthy seller of the credit default swap, it is risk-free money. You can make almost 1% on the spread! Lever that up a few times and it becomes interesting. (Except that you can no longer get money to really leverage it enough.) This should not be. Then why is it?

Because "... assets everywhere are being dumped in favor of cash, and corporate bonds are no exception. Second, corporate bonds are no longer that attractive as collateral for funding because counterparts are demanding more onerous terms in exchange for lending out cash in return." (The Financial Times)

The corporate bond market is assuming an Armageddon Scenario. Barclays Capital writes that one would have to assume that US GDP will contract by 15% to make sense of the current bond spreads.

My friend and partner Nick Rees at Absolute Return Partners in London dropped me this note (emphasis mine):

"Leveraged loans had a particularly rough month with the average senior secured loan losing over 20 points in value and now trading in the mid 60s. The sell-off was largely driven by forced liquidations as hedge funds face substantial redemptions in the run-in to New Year. This is how crazy the loan market is: The worst ever default rate for senior secured loans is about 8%. If you assume a 35% annual default rate and a 50% recovery rate, your IRR to maturity is now in excess of 22%, using no leverage whatsoever. Either this is the investment opportunity of the century, or equity markets have seriously underestimated the economic downturn, and things are likely to get a whole lot worse for equity investors."

Formerly stable credit funds that are mark-to-market are posting horrific numbers. Many of them have closed redemptions until the market comes back. Selling a fully secured loan at 60 cents on the dollar makes no sense; and many investors are happy the funds have closed, as forced selling by other investors would lock in their losses when the loans will surely recover much of the current markdowns over time. But forced selling by some funds mean that all funds have to mark down the loans to today's value. Mark-to-market in this context is appropriate but it is still hard on your psychology while you wait, and especially as loans seem to keep dropping in value.


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