have to concur GP i don't fire as many as he does but i have yet to a jam with mine - and yes - the 180 gr bullet does indeed do its job and, the real reason i changed from the 17 to the 23 is that it doesn't bounce around a lot with the shot - much less that the 17 which makes shot recovery faster & easier - i can easily bounce a pop can 10 times in 15 seconds
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