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Re: Conno post# 195

Thursday, 09/11/2008 5:01:25 PM

Thursday, September 11, 2008 5:01:25 PM

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Are ITM and HEC teaming with Ford UK ?

Todays announcement said Hydrogen Engine Center expects to receive an electrolyser from ITM on completion of the current ITM development program. Upon receipt of that unit, HEC will begin conducting trial testing on the combined generator-electrolyzer system. ITM will also be conducting trial testing on a similar system. Data collected from both trials will be gathered and analyzed to better determine potential commercialization avenues for the system.
This raises a few interesting questions
e.g.
An electrolyser makes hydrogen from water and electricity and puts it into a tank
And
The electrolyser can then be switched off
Likewise
A hydrogen engine generator draws hydrogen from a storage tank, burns it in an engine which rotates the generator and creates electricity
ie
It doesn’t matter to the gen set whether or not the hydrogen in the tank came from ITM`s electrolyser or was made from some other source
Therefore
ITM don’t need to trial their 10kw HRU in conjunction with an 8Kw HEC gen set in order to prove that it can work as part of a system containing both items
Similarly
HEC don’t need to trial their 8Kw gen set in conjunction with an ITM 10kw HRU in order to prove that it can work as part of a system containing both items

So what conclusions can we draw from this statement ?

Firstly the Statement was probably written by ITM and released by HEC as it reads like an ITM press release with its mixture of confusion and obfustcation

Secondly the Statement is really talking about trialling a system and not about trialling either an electrolyser or a gen set
And
The system contains much more than just an electrolyser and a gen set
It will be something you can see and touch and feel and operate
The system will need:
Solar panels or wind turbine generating say 25Kw minimum of green power, a storage tank ,some electrical equipment, control electronics and some civil works to fix and enclose the various items and protect them from the elements
A green power co will have to be part of the project as it will be necessary to interface the various components supplied by each party
Planning permission will be needed if it is to be installed as a brand new installation
Alternatively the system could be an enlargement of an existing green power installation possibly in a UK site possibly one which may be connected but is not dependent on the UK grid
And most importantly of all
ITM don’t need to prove to themselves that their electrolyser works
And
HEC don’t need to prove to themselves that their gen set works
Therefore someone else needs to be convinced that both ITM`s electrolyser and HEC`s gen set will work in THEIR green power system

Now who could that be ?

Who has their own green power supply at their english factory ?
Who previously employed people who are now Directors of both ITM and HEC ?
Who has an interest in electrolysers fuelling one of their HydrogenTransit Vans ?

mmmmmmmm…………….