me again, i tried both reloaded, cntl refresh. i still get this page. <a href="http://ih.advfn.com/p.php?pid=trades&cb=1218736462&symbol=N%5EIVAN" target="_blank">http://ih.advfn.com/p.php?pid=trades&cb=1218736462&symbol=N%5EIVAN</a> RE: Try ADVFN's troubleshooter page - that might help. <a href="http://ih.advfn.com/p.php?pid=troubleshooter&fields=pid%3Dtrades" target="_blank">http://ih.advfn.com/p.php?pid=troubleshooter&fields=pid%3Dtrades</a> answer. i have to be online to do this. right????? On IHUB????? i appreciate you trying to help me. i do like ihub quotes "gives bid and ask that i use a lot for trading." <!--Beg_Sig--> <img src=http://www.onebgg.net/mick.gif> Caspermick "TOUGH TIMES NEVER LAST BUT TOUGH PEOPLE DO." God Bless America In Gambling,,,Playing Card Games. Ya Never Know What The Next Hand Will Look Like. Ten Bagger Potential Stock