RichieBoy Tuesday, 08/12/08 07:13:30 PM Re: torridtrader post# 26230 Post # of 40096 In fact torridtrader, on closer inspection. I'd say production in Canada is all but a certainty, wouldn't you? http://nashville.bizjournals.com/phoenix/stories/2005/06/13/focus8.html?page=2 Title: "Process for Addition of a Nutraceutical to a Beverage". Name: Steve Nickolas, Scottsdale; and Andrew Stewart, Ontario, Canada. Assigned to: Enhanced Beverages LLC, Scottsdale. Filed: Nov. 1, 2002. Description: A nutraceutical beverage produced by a certain process involving forskohlin, hydroxycitric acid and fructooligosaccharides. Patent number: 6,855,552 B2. Anyway the chips fall. There is no better substitute than YOUR OWN DD Including mine...good luck!