F6 - why ?
>>> so 'win' or 'victory' as you use it means that they have to let us stay and allow us to use them for our further imperial quests?<<<
how is it that you (and other libs/dems/lefties) cannot see what is so clearly evident to those waging the GWOT
is it "We hold these truths to be self-evident"
only for the West
Japan seemed to get the message
Turkey is fending off attacks, but, odds are, it will continue its secular government
And likely there is no going back in Russia, but it will take time
WHY ?
is it just Bushhatred ?
Iraq, as a democratic Islamic country, with rights guaranteed for all
is the keystone to prosperity for our children and grandchildren and even great grandchildren
Lose Iraq, and they have war with Islam throughout their lives
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it seems to me, that is what the libs,dems,lefties
would prefer, rather than winning in Iraq -- and giving Bush credit for a victory
(do not be concerned -- the Isllamofacists will continue their war, no matter what -- W will be a great president, no matter what}