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You mean the dark transistors that almost pushed it out of the acceptable envelope for a desktop processor, the dark transistors, thier heat, and possible speed path issues that limit clock speed scaling to below 130nm Northwood?
Sounds like a plan.


*** Actually, it is. The only reason that the dark transistors were included in the initial current revision of Prescott, was to see if it would work, not to actually turn it on. The power issues were well known, and the plan most likely was to turn on the functionality when the power envelope could be reduced, certainly by the original 2006 timeframe "envisioned" by Geslinger for turning it on.


I think, at the time Ole Geslinger shot his mouth off, Intel executives did not believe that Opteron would catch on right away, and therefore saw no need to turn on EM64T until later.

The work was definitely under way in September 2003, with his full knowledge


*** Of course it was Joe. Do you think that if you're planning to offer 64bit in 2006/2007, that you start work on it in 2005.5? If so, it doesn't seem like you understand the complexity involved in doing it. You have to start work on it way before. That doesn't mean that you HAVE to tell your competitors about it, as you seem to be implying.


Once in a while, truth must be told. Also, it adds to the context to compare past actions / statements with reality, and take it into account when judging current actions / statements.


*** Cumon Joe, then tell the truth now. What you really mean is, that you're pissed off that intel pulled one over on you and your AMDroid fans. Ya thought you had 64bit all to yourself for loooooooong into the foreseeable future, and now with intel reportedly coming out with EM64T this summer, AMD's plan for 64bit dominance just blew up in it's face. That's what's really got your goat. It's obvious



Top to bottom must start with one, and I have not seen a single EMT whatever processor.
Joe


*** Of course not, since the EM64T is not scheduled to be launched until this summer. And btw Joe, a little birdie told me, that if you're pinning your hopes on some sort of manufacturing issue to delay it.....? Don't hold your breath