iwant1mil. Those who have lost big have no hope of gaining anything. The reason they are upset, still, are because in many cases they were told face-to-face by the principle officers of the Company of things that are real fuzzy, or very gray at best. Lies at worst. The hard pill for me to swallow is the "technical breakthrough" products; three by my count, which have faded from existence and were never shipped. All this when the best funded R&D, at large corporations come up with zip. Something is rotten in Denmark. Chipwa1