They were in a quiet period about the same time as NV, they also had 2 amendments in their filling I think we should here from NV soon <A HREF="http://edgar.sec.gov/cgi-bin/browse-edgar?action=getcompany&CIK=0001235010&owner=include" target="_new">http://edgar.sec.gov/cgi-bin/browse-edgar?action=getcompany&CIK=0001235010&owner=include</A>