Biotech Values

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OT - I find the whole ID fight very amusing and philosophically/psychologically interesting. It amazes me that there is a large class of people who believe in an all-powerful, all-knowing God who must tinker in a hidden way to get his creatures as He would like them. Given that He is omniscient and omnipotent He should easily be able to pick the laws and the starting state and get the same place without tinkering. And even if he lacks one of the omni's, why does the tinkering need to be hidden. A god of the cracks has always seemed uninteresting. So the heat and light is fascinating.

On the other side it is equally amazing to watch scientists defending what boils down to philosophy - that a theory isn't scientific if it isn't 'disprovable' (ref Popper), and a god of the cracks is never, by definition, disprovable - but almost never saying that.

So essentially two sides fighting without ever really getting down to brass tacks.

PS I would personally fight strongly against presentation of ID as scientific theory, but would have no objection to bringing it up as a plain theory - but then ask the question as to how it could be disproved. An education in scientific thought process.

PPS My only post on this since I don't want to litter the board with OT posts.