Zeev's Turnips Talk Politics (ZTTP)

[mike_m]

Re:<I don't believe I have ever heard anyone on this thread take what I would consider to be a terrorist position. That just seems to be what you need to posit in order to justify your position. A need that mandates that all opposition to the Bush Administration and the war in Iraq is hatred. I hear this all the time.

Yet many would consider the "do nothing" approach so popularly espoused as playing directly into the hands of terrorists. It certainly never appeared to work for the previous administration. Loyal opposition isn't that hard to distinguish from abject hatred.


Re:<Many people have believed that this war in Iraq was terribly misguided, poorly thought out and frankly based on mostly dis-information. Yesterday there were bombings in China and in Athens. The litany of attacks worldwide continues, yet you somehow believe that we are exterminating this threat.>

And many people have an agenda contrary to the current administration. Who said anyone believes that we are exterminating this threat? We are a far cry from that. Until the world realizes that you cannot run away and hide or just will it away it will continue mercilessly....



Re:<The (fact) that you don't seem to think that the torture of prisoners by your government is important just undermines your argument. Where exactly do you think the responsibility lies if it doesn't lie with the President? Who exactly is the commander and chief? >

What "fact" do you think that you have discovered? Don't be a fool. There is no sanctioned torture by my government. Were there to be, you surely wouldn't have heard about it; which should be your first clue. The responsibility that lies with the President is the one which he is carrying out. To stop any wrongdoing and to punish the miscreants. Just because our soldiers are dealing with murderers and other criminals doesn't give them the right to torture them. It does give the critic plenty of opportunity to take pot shots regardless of how fair they may be...

Re:<The resources of this country have been wasted in Iraq. About the only laudable outcome seems to be that Kahdafi decided to pretend to come clean. Yet anyone who followed his son's so called soccer career would know that he has been moving in that direction for quite a while.

Don't you mean the resources of "your" country? Only when you personally have been removed from your ivory tower and tasted the bitter pill of personal loss from these terrorist acts can you pass judgement on whether resources have been wasted or not.

Or something more like that.