Monday, June 09, 2008 11:59:37 PM
NSS = endless supply of "shares" to sell.
Theoretically, every person on the planet could be buying Hemi shares and it still can't overcome the infinity that is the supply of airshares. Theoretically, in this scenario supply is always infinitely bigger than demand. And that's where the problem is.
What it comes down to, is that I'm saying your explanation for the SP being oppressed is extremely simplified, and so is the solution you keep proposing to fix it.
There are several factors that have to come into play in order to turn the tables on those who are selling naked shorts.
Constantly blaming management for not putting out enough information as the cause for a low share price is asinine, not to mention it just gets old.
If there was no manipulation, your explanation, simple or not, would be spot on. But that's just not the case.
A higher volume of information will only serve to make current shareholders "feel good". But it still may not be the best way to proceed. And it certainly is no kind of "cure all". It's constantly brought up by those wanting to play head games.
I'm not saying necessarily that more disclosure would be a bad thing. I'm only saying that I'm content to let management deal with it the way they believe is best, rather than constantly coming to a message board and trying to use that to tell management how much I know better than they do what they should do and how they should do it.
What will bring in the big buyers is when the manipulation is overcome, and the chart can get back to being real and accurate. Just as they started to buy in last time, because the chart indicated they should, so too will they return when the chart returns. It's a matter of time. (This is what the T trades are all about).
There's no magic bullet... but there is a combination of things, and when all those things are in place the tables should turn.
If what you're saying really worked, there would be thousands of pink sheet stocks that would be in a whole lot better shape than they are at present. If it was really so easy to get the MMs to leave the stock alone to trade honestly, then all the more Pink sheet stocks would be not buried alive by the gaping loophole exploited by the MMs.
I do sort of agree with you that more buying would help... I suppose it was sounding like I was saying it's hopeless to buy. On the contrary. Buying now is perfect because the price is fantastic. Plus, when it does happen to be real shares selling, the MMs will have to compete for them if they want to buy them to cover. From that standpoint they have an interest in keeping the shares "affordable".
We've got a boatload of good information and news coming down the pike. From the standpoint of the pace at which things seem to occur on the internet, it feels like it's moving slowly, but in real life, things are plugging right along, and the information will be upon us soon enough.
This certain won't hurt.
But good news is not the only thing that will bring in buyers. In fact, by now I would think you'd have caught on to the fact that most buying occurs before news is released and some routinely sell for a profit upon the news arriving.
It's not the upcoming news in and of itself that will turn the tables, but rather the fundamentals that the news will represent that will make the difference. Just like rumors of big news can cause anticipation and bring in buyers, so too can information that fundamentals are increasing several fold in very substantial ways, spur buyers to jump on board. MANY are not so much waiting for data, as they are waiting for word that current projects are being successfully completed so that the fundamentals are further comfirmed and increased.
I still maintain, now is not a good time to blink.
The great part with Hemi, is even if the efforts to take back the chart and turn the tables are not immediately successful, their plans, when they do play out in the not-so-distant future, will totally trump anything currently being done to oppress the share price, not to mention the ROI opportunity that doesn't depend on the market, just as Hemi's current operations don't depend on the market (as Duelittle so aptly explained again earlier).
(Hemi doesn't HAVE to use shares, but they are a tool to be used when appropriate. Just like I HAVE a checking account, but it doesn't mean I am compelled to pay any bills with it. It is a tool I use to help manage my finances.)
HMGP: Don't blink!!!
Theoretically, every person on the planet could be buying Hemi shares and it still can't overcome the infinity that is the supply of airshares. Theoretically, in this scenario supply is always infinitely bigger than demand. And that's where the problem is.
What it comes down to, is that I'm saying your explanation for the SP being oppressed is extremely simplified, and so is the solution you keep proposing to fix it.
There are several factors that have to come into play in order to turn the tables on those who are selling naked shorts.
Constantly blaming management for not putting out enough information as the cause for a low share price is asinine, not to mention it just gets old.
If there was no manipulation, your explanation, simple or not, would be spot on. But that's just not the case.
A higher volume of information will only serve to make current shareholders "feel good". But it still may not be the best way to proceed. And it certainly is no kind of "cure all". It's constantly brought up by those wanting to play head games.
I'm not saying necessarily that more disclosure would be a bad thing. I'm only saying that I'm content to let management deal with it the way they believe is best, rather than constantly coming to a message board and trying to use that to tell management how much I know better than they do what they should do and how they should do it.
What will bring in the big buyers is when the manipulation is overcome, and the chart can get back to being real and accurate. Just as they started to buy in last time, because the chart indicated they should, so too will they return when the chart returns. It's a matter of time. (This is what the T trades are all about).
There's no magic bullet... but there is a combination of things, and when all those things are in place the tables should turn.
If what you're saying really worked, there would be thousands of pink sheet stocks that would be in a whole lot better shape than they are at present. If it was really so easy to get the MMs to leave the stock alone to trade honestly, then all the more Pink sheet stocks would be not buried alive by the gaping loophole exploited by the MMs.
I do sort of agree with you that more buying would help... I suppose it was sounding like I was saying it's hopeless to buy. On the contrary. Buying now is perfect because the price is fantastic. Plus, when it does happen to be real shares selling, the MMs will have to compete for them if they want to buy them to cover. From that standpoint they have an interest in keeping the shares "affordable".
We've got a boatload of good information and news coming down the pike. From the standpoint of the pace at which things seem to occur on the internet, it feels like it's moving slowly, but in real life, things are plugging right along, and the information will be upon us soon enough.
This certain won't hurt.
But good news is not the only thing that will bring in buyers. In fact, by now I would think you'd have caught on to the fact that most buying occurs before news is released and some routinely sell for a profit upon the news arriving.
It's not the upcoming news in and of itself that will turn the tables, but rather the fundamentals that the news will represent that will make the difference. Just like rumors of big news can cause anticipation and bring in buyers, so too can information that fundamentals are increasing several fold in very substantial ways, spur buyers to jump on board. MANY are not so much waiting for data, as they are waiting for word that current projects are being successfully completed so that the fundamentals are further comfirmed and increased.
I still maintain, now is not a good time to blink.
The great part with Hemi, is even if the efforts to take back the chart and turn the tables are not immediately successful, their plans, when they do play out in the not-so-distant future, will totally trump anything currently being done to oppress the share price, not to mention the ROI opportunity that doesn't depend on the market, just as Hemi's current operations don't depend on the market (as Duelittle so aptly explained again earlier).
(Hemi doesn't HAVE to use shares, but they are a tool to be used when appropriate. Just like I HAVE a checking account, but it doesn't mean I am compelled to pay any bills with it. It is a tool I use to help manage my finances.)
HMGP: Don't blink!!!
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