refiners are heading down but DUG is up...dunno what oil is doing thinking the refiners are under major accumulation but another sell-off likely...maybe i can get that sweet spot...at least i got some of it with ALJ some refineries are totally shut down because of gasoline glut and low margins low-floaters like NVEC can run well when the markets sell off i see your PXLW getting that sell-off i foresaw today someone got some nice .50's....i'm not in position to get any right now :( <!--Beg_Sig-->