A few of the Long Termers I own (fwiw): NOK under 17 while ANALips bad mouth it . . . MRK KFT JNJ BMY BVF CHKP ORCL PSFT SUNW MOT TOY (most of these are a little bit lower risk over the long term than the others I own) Many big drug cos are now closer to the lower end of their cycles. All IMHO