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Re: fawtsc post# 198

Saturday, 03/15/2008 2:11:40 AM

Saturday, March 15, 2008 2:11:40 AM

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Part 2
In relation to the price of non teak trees you market, it should be easy to find a fair market value and thinning schedules.
Market prices can be received from ITTO and open market requested quotes.
It should not be difficult every six months or so demand a quote from others about the trees you grow, to be used for investors, as guide of what the open market is paying for their investments. At least post the results as "informational" and non-indicative of future results. That will be better than insinuating – or asserting in person as you did to me no once but a few times- by omission as in your web site, that those other trees might have similar return in some cases superior than the teak projections.
I am learning the hard way that is not the case.
When I asked you about the Mix trees and the Supra, you said, "in general they have similar cash flow than your Teak and similar thinning schedules." I have not receive any notice that you have change your view on those projections.
A "fair" assessment of ROI for those other products will be helpful, adding the known standard deviation in price and age for such trees -as you refer in your Web site- the ITTO has those market prices.

Steve, I learn from your comments here, that most trees with less than 15 years have minimal value -there is not an indication in web site of their thinning schedule- nor will create any meaningful ROI until they reach at least 20 years.
Based on your own comments here, the owners of Teak (I wonder the owners of premium an supra mixes) have to wait much more than the 7 years you schedule in your web site - the projections page- it seems the reality to be up to 15 years - based on some of the happy owners statements- and your comments to others. That indicates that there is insinuated or innaccurate information that misleads investors.
The ROI expectations that you post are not indicative of any real ROI based on of your own statements of payments to owners.
Thus, I will suggest you change your web information.
It seems that my worse nightmare is becoming true.
As you can assume I am not going to wait for a response.
Due to answers I receive from your office about my trees, which are already over your estimated time for thinning by three years. It is starting to smell more than fishy.
Moreover, I will immediately contact my attorney general and other authorities to see if the information you provide to investors amounts to the following definition "All multifarious means which human ingenuity can devise, and which are resorted to by one individual to get an advantage over another by false suggestions or suppression of the truth. It includes all surprises, tricks, cunning or dissembling, and any unfair way which another is cheated."
As A1 said, the trees have some value, but far much less that what is claimed in the web site. Much less, thus far that is my experience.

Some one mentioned Oxigen Investments.
O I of England, well, that really is a fake it until you make it operations of two guys in a bedroom.
These people own nothing of what they claim.

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