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Thursday, 02/28/2008 4:05:40 AM

Thursday, February 28, 2008 4:05:40 AM

Post# of 483884
Funny, to me everything he said felt good, so i'd take it
if it did that she was saying good on you fellow Democrat ..

For a long time there have been some who fought against arms control .. why? .. we know, it is
bad for some business
arms control treaties are bad for enemy myth building and bad for hurting
our "enemie's" .. oops Freudian .. slip slop, or something .. some just like toys
.. foo continued down ..
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earlier Perle, all old stuff ..
"Perle met Wohlstetter when he was a high school student in Los Angeles and was invited by Wohlstetter's daughter to swim in their pool. Later, Wohlstetter invited Perle, then a graduate student at Princeton, to Washington to work with Wolfowitz on a paper about the proposed Anti-Ballistic Missile Treaty, which Wohlstetter opposed and which has been abandoned by the Bush administration. Wohlstetter introduced Perle to Democratic Senator Henry ("Scoop") Jackson of Washington, an aggressive cold warrior and champion of Israel's interests. Woolsey (who calls himself "a Scoop Jackson Democrat") came to know Wohlstetter in 1980, when they both served on a Pentagon panel. Of Wohlstetter Woolsey said in a conversation we had in mid-April, "A key to understanding how Richard and Paul and I think is Albert. He's had a major impact on us."
And through Wohlstetter, Perle met Ahmed Chalabi" ...
http://www.jaybabcock.com/magpie70.html

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""The political base for CPD II was in the Coalition for a Democratic Majority, a group formed in 1972 by the hard-line, anti-Soviet wing of the Senate, led by Sen. Henry M. Scoop Jackson."
http://www.sourcewatch.org/index.php?title=Committee_on_the_Present_Danger

foo continues .. economic growth .. we are ideologically strict, you better believe it .. we special children
with a very special mission .. we are right they are wrong .. black and white .. no overlaps ..
nothing to consider
.. our way has created wealth so much more efficiently .. we are so much
richer now, so we can spend more, then they have to .. YEAH! AN ARMS RACE!!! .. Yummy ..
THAT'S BAD FOR THEM!!! .. YEAH!!! ... isn't that kind of how some of our shemozzle works? .. LOLOL .. back to links ..

"Further embarrassment was triggered by Mr. Perle one day in October of 2001.
If you watched CNN's Crossfire that night you heard Richard Perle talking about strategy in the United States' war against terrorism. He was specifically distinguishing between Bush's strategy and that emanating from the State Department, -- and Colin Powell. To put it candidly, he said that Powell was pursuing a irrational policy of coalition building and undermining or discounting the stated desires of George W. Bush.
In another embarrassing revelation, a British newspaper reported that Richard Perle had been employed in the late 1970's by Israeli arms firms selling weapons -- which does not help the Administration fend off unproved rumors that Perle might me a member of the secret Israeli intelligence force Mossad.

Perle, as Chairman of the Defense Policy Board (which is an advisory group that reports to Deputy Defense Secretary Paul Wolfowitz), is reported to have once presented a written document to Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu spelling out a new Israel foreign policy.
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insert .. PERLE .. Benjamin Netanyahu .. MEK? .. MOSSAD? .. even considering it hurts ..
you tell me .. thanks to, Amy, for this bit
http://investorshub.advfn.com/boards/read_msg.asp?Message_id=16880204&txt2find=richard
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It called for the repudiation of the Oslo Accords and the underlying concept of "land for peace"; for the permanent annexation for the entire West Bank and Gaza Strip, and for the elimination of Saddam Hussein's regime in Baghdad as first steps towards overthrowing or destabilizing the governments of Syria, Lebanon, Saudi Arabia, and Iran.

So, if you think that Baghdad is the last stop, it's time to think again." ..

WE know some have a big, brutal agenda .. FOO ..

This document was prepared for the Jerusalem and Washington, DC based Institute for Advanced Strategic and Political Studies (IASPS), a think tank financed by Richard Mellon-Scaife -- the same paranoiac billionaire who financed, some say, almost the entire private wing of the Clinton lynching expedition. Scaife, who was booted from Yale for drunkenness, is said to buy up ultra-right wing authors' books by the tens of thousands in order to have them placed on the absolutely useless New York Times bestseller list.

Perle's report, "A Clean Break: A New Strategy for Securing the Realm," was authored, among others, by Perle and Douglas Feith, now the Assistant Secretary of Defense for Policy.

Two days after Israel's then-Prime Minister Netanyahu acquired the foreign policy plan from Perle, he dispensed a speech before a joint session of Congress which strongly ricocheted Perle's outline.

Perle has also been accused of curious dealings with Adnan Khashoggi, the notorious billionaire Saudi arms dealer, oil man and marquee actor in the Iran-Contra scandal.

After his stretch with President Reagan, Perle became a highly paid lobbyist for Turkey and, working alongside Israel, purportedly killed a Senate resolution in 1989 blaming Turkey for the Armenian Genocide.

NEXT: Perle is also a first-rate liar.
http://www.apj.us/20030327Koop2.html
http://www.apj.us/20030327Koop.html

a couple of excerpts from a long one ..

"Now, it seems that the real John Bolton has boldly stepped beyond the veneer. And true to form, just as he woke up
each morning for the first four years of the Bush administration asking what he could do to make Colin Powell's
life miserable and, at the same time, doing Vice President Cheney's bidding, John Bolton has now target
Condoleezza Rice's efforts to get America back on a more balanced foreign policy track with the rest of the world.".........

"Goldberg establishes that John Bolton has
approached his job with the zeal of a true believer"


WELL, they do say they are .. LIKE THE SCIENTOLOGISTS .. et al, how does it happen? .. these think we are so special people so they are so driven to utter lunacy, in a lunar sense .. born and bred, i guess .. are these attitudes of strict social Darwinism, or something .. anyway ..

"his first moves at the U.N., Bolton made the "eye-popping" proposal to rid the Millennium Summit document of any of the 14 references to Millennium Development Goals. Goldberg documents the uproar that ensued, and no less than Secretary of State Condoleezza Rice had to put this diplomatic fiasco he created back in order –- compelling Bolton at the end of the day to step back and relent.

But the big news that Mark Goldberg breaks is that the American Prospect has confirmed that it was John Bolton himself who scuttled Secretary of State Rice's efforts to offer Syria a Libya-like opportunity to get itself out of the international dog house. Goldberg writes:

. . .the tension between Rice and Bolton has grown dramatically in several areas, most notably with regard to Syria: The Prospect has learned that Bolton was the source of an October leak to the British press that submarined sensitive negotiations Rice was overseeing with that country.

Goldberg's piece is good through and through, but the juiciest, news-breaking revelations come in this depiction of Condi's commendable efforts with Syria:

Indeed, it was Rice, not Bolton, who achieved the one significant success of Bolton's first 100 days at the United Nations: a unanimous October 30 Security Council vote requiring Syria to fully cooperate with a UN investigation into the suspected Syria-sponsored assassination of former Lebanese Prime Minister Rafik Hariri.

The Prospect has learned that in the days and weeks leading up to the late October UN report on Hariri's assassination, Rice sought to sideline Bolton from the negotiations over the Security Council resolution that the report inspired. She also made the State Department, not the U.S. Mission to the UN, the central address for
discussions on the resolution.

One of the first signs that a bureaucratic battle was brewing between Bolton and Rice over Syria came on October 18, when the State Department press corps was shocked to find that Rice had unexpectedly flown to New York to meet Annan. A State Department spokesman explained that the two met to "compare notes" in advance of a widely anticipated report by Detlev Mehlis, the secretary-general's special investigator for the Hariri assassination.

Yet Bolton, the man in charge of the United States' day-to-day operations at the UN, was conspicuously absent from that meeting. In what appears to have been less of an accident than a matter of intentional timing, Rice made her trip to New York on the very morning that Bolton had to be in Washington, testifying before the Senate on the progress (or lack thereof) of UN reforms.

The Prospect has further learned that, rather than forging Security Council strategy with America's European allies at the UN building in New York, much of the diplomatic legwork has been carried out in Foggy Bottom.

On October 22, a French delegation from the UN traveled to Washington for initial discussions on the Syria resolution (later called Security Council Resolution 1636), of which the French were the original authors.

According to a diplomatic source, Bolton was not initially invited to that meeting. The French, however, insisted on his presence. So Bolton attended, but not without three chaperones: Assistant Secretary of State for Near Eastern Affairs David Welch, Welch's deputy (and vice-presidential daughter) Elizabeth Cheney, and National Security Council Middle East chief Michael Doran.

"It's like they stuck a strong team from the [State Department and National Security Council] to watch him," said the diplomat.

Despite Rice's tight oversight of the resolution negotiations, the unanimity of the council was still in doubt one day before the Security Council meeting. Finally, in a last-minute lunch meeting with her foreign-minister counterparts from the veto-wielding permanent five Security Council members, Rice personally removed references to sanctions that had been inserted by the United States. With those obstacles to unanimous consent gone, Resolution 1636 passed 15 to 0.

Rice's involvement came after Bolton had won round one in the Syria battle. Bolton and Rice's bureaucratic tiffs over Syria had actually boiled over two weeks prior to the Security Council vote. Journalist Ibrahim Hamidi, writing in the Arabic-language newspaper Al-Hayat, reported -- and the Prospect has independently confirmed -- that Bolton had leaked to British newspapers that the Bush administration had signaled its willingness to offer Syria a "Libya-style deal""

A TIDBIT OF COMMENT PERSPECTIVE ..

Posted by steve at December 14, 2005 04:22 AM
Comments

Like many other bully leaders before them that want to appear diplomatic, they put a tough, crazy pitbull in charge of foreign affairs and then step in to "moderate" that zeal when other nations complain about the unreasonableness, even irrationality, of the pitbull. In this sense, if nothing else, we can say that the Great Leader understands a certain subtlety in the art of marginalizing allies and pressuring enemies "diplomatically". Perhaps the Great Leader is more like Bushler than Busholini then was heretofore believed in uncertain circles.
Posted by: parrot at December 14, 2005 05:41 AM

Oh no Steve....(deep,deep, sigh) another good cop/bad cop story. Condi as the noble warrior being betrayed by the evil Bolton. (who is evil by the way, IMHO) This is the Colin Powell story updated and gender adjusted.

Look, they both suck. .. fuagf emphasis ..

WISH PERLE WOULD GET BACK IN HIS OYSTER ..
COCOONED .. MAROONED .. eased out of the loop ..

http://www.thewashingtonnote.com/archives/001142.php











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