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Re: x-point post# 5079

Monday, 02/25/2008 6:28:24 PM

Monday, February 25, 2008 6:28:24 PM

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Hi x-point

From your post:

There are black churches and then there are black churches, but the black church that we are talking about here is a racist black church led by a less that wholly patriotic reverand. To state that any politician that points this up is "playing the race card in a most foul manner" is rediculous.

From my post:

"In the days of the civil rights movement, (1950s, 1960s) Churches served as the organizing point for many of the efforts to obtain the rights promised in the Constitution. Churches were even bombed by White Supremecists, in an effort to derail or intimidate local civil rights pushes. During this time, some Black church leaders got a little tired of preaching "Turn the other cheek," when their parishoners were being abused and even killed. So, a degree of Afrocentrism, and militancy entered the Black church community. -And it is understandable that it did.-

Black leaders must honor this church based approach to civic organizing if they intend to lead any Black congressional district. The most vocal and powerful ministers are often the ones that adopt the most militant stances among the Black community. Black leaders must walk a line with these ministers, but it does not mean that they adopt the minister's views as a whole. Instead, they acknowledge that Black ministers have been, and continue to be extremely important in the Black community- and that if not for the efforts of Black ministers in the past, the leaders of today would not be able to exercise their civil rights on an equal basis with others in the U. S."

Black ministers are often the ones who stand up and say the thoughts/issues that are on the minds of many in the community. They are viewed as the driving force in the still occuring drive for full civil rights. Pointing out the wrongs that a White dominated society inflicted upon others is a part of this. To try to tar Obama with this brush is unfair to him, and the Black community in general. It is Jingoism wrapped in Swiftboating.

Look at what you really have here. Has Obama ever been quoted as saying any of this anti-America stuff? -No-

Is Rev. Wright only about being anti-America? Again, no. As a church leader, he serves a far wider purpose, and while I don't know much of him, I feel confident in saying that he may well do many good works behind the scenes. We can disgree with him on his anti-America stance without having to brand all in his church with that mark, and we can realize that just a few remarks are not the full measure of the man. Just like a few portions of Obama's past are not the measure of the man he is now.

Look also at the evidence that exists as to Obama's supposed agreement with Wright's 9/11 views. A supposed witness saw him nod when Wright was saying these things. I can only ask you, would you like this to be the standard for evidence which cast you in a negative light?

I think not.

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