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Re: valorie post# 11697

Saturday, 02/02/2008 2:45:51 PM

Saturday, February 02, 2008 2:45:51 PM

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So I guess that loving your enemy stuff really isn't what it's all about. And we're going to march in the streets over that sin of gay rights instead of praying for the deliverance of homosexuality?

Praying for the deliverance of homosexuality? Love the sinner but hate the sin. Homosexuality is going to be the number 1 social issue that is going to destroy all that the 1 man..1 woman..moral family values lifestyle that God had in mind, when he placed Adam and Eve on this earth and told them to multiply. There are churches as we speak that have decided it is Ok for man to be with man and women with women. Born again christians have prayed for a good long while about this...maybe as the body of Christ that we are...Jesus is saying, well, get out there and do something. As the body of Christ he works through us...We pray at our mealtime...Lord provide for those that are hungry...Jesus is saying get out there and feed them...Lord protect my friend from her husband...is Jesus saying, get out there and do something...Yes prayer is answered by our God...but just as often as the hand of God reaches down and answers those prayers, many if not most of the time those prayers are answered through us...the born again christians...I see it as lazy on the believers part to just sit back and pray and think God is going to always do something...Often I pray about something and no sooner than the prayer has ended or even before..the Holy Spirit is saying to me...Get up and do something. Homosexuality is not going anywhere until the believers get off their hind end and say enough, im tired of my children being corrupted by this social unbiblical lifestyle. Thank God that there are some God loving groups that are standing up against this curse.
http://www.afa.net/homosexual_agenda/


The same thing happened with abortion years back. People stormed into the doctor's office and chained themselves to tables, Brought aborted fetuses to church and held them up with that all might see the sin of the world until finally we begin to blow up doctors to find snipers to shoot them and all in the legalization of murder we became the murderers! What a fiasco!

Sorry but as far as im concerned..bad example...I know these things happened but to try and say that all this was done by Christian people. They might have said they were church people or whatever but I can bet you a hundred dollars to a donut that all this was not in the name of God by born-again christians!...big difference

Who do we think delivers His people from sin? What sins are excluded from His deliverance? Who Is Really in Charge of His Own People?

The last time I looked at the world i still see that satan is in control of the world...God can end his free reign any moment with the return of Jesus but until then..satan has the world right where he wants it. Yes the Lord delivers his people from their sin...but we are talking the sin of the world here are we not. The followers of satan are the majority here, we christian folk are not even up to minority class yet we are so few. So I believe, once again, God must be saying..Ok you lazy children of mine..get up and get out there and put up the good fight. You start it in my name and ill finish it for you. Man, I got to believe God gets so tired of all his good little children just sitting around and belly aching all the time about how bad things are...O' God save us, take this all away...I got a busy day at work then i got to hit the gym and then run my son to the ball game and have supper and then theres a good movie coming on but I got to get to bed because we are going camping this week-end..but if you could just get rid of this burden for us....


Do you actually think we can rally put forth change with religious organized rallies in this nation that has no true revelation of God and make a difference? Well I hope you can find a place in your Bible where Jesus handed out signs and told them to march in the streets about the heresy and hypocrisies that were going on in the world that he walked upon! As I recall the only time he made a whip is when he turned over the tables of the money changers in the temple where God's people of the day,the Pharisees of the day thinking themselves better than any common person, thinking that God loved them more. And had turned God's house into a house of politics religion and the love of money.

YES!...I believe that if the born-again christians of this once great nation of God would organize that God would bless it and that it would be that true revelation of God.


It is not flesh and blood that we war against but principalities and powers and you know that, changing people is the job of the Holy Spirit. Submitting to the spirit is the job of the saints.

I war against the flesh every day and I live in a world that satan is everywhere I look. The only place that I can find the Lord is in my heart and in other believers hearts. Thats because God has pretty much been run out of everything else in this once great God loving nation..Heck, I dont know that God is even in a lot of the churches today because satan has taken a lot of them. And if we born again folks just want to sit back and do nothing or say anything im quite certain that satan will be more than happy than to take the rest of them over....and as far as the Holy Spirit changing people...do they 1st not have to ask the Lords forgiveness before they receive the spirit to guide them?


I just read but a few posts ago how we were to love our enemies to pray for them and even bless them, and then I read this! He said if I be lifted up I will draw all men unto me, not posters not marches and not judgments. We don't fight fire with fire, we fight fire with water.

Sure, I agree with that...love our enemies..We know what
Matthew 5:38-44 tell us...but let me ask this....If we pray to God for an answer as to what to do concerning a enemy and through the Holy Spirit we are sometimes commanded to fight...
What if we had taken that to heart in WWI or WWII or any of the other great wars that this once God loving country fought in against satan and his followers....Christianity probably would have been long gone and I guess Jesus would have returned already if we had not stood up and fought.....And no thats not different...satan is satan....he caused those wars just as he is causing all the destruction here in the USA today. But here on our own land nobody seems to care...throw open the doors and say come on in my good friend satan...can I get ya a beer


So we're okay with laying down our palm branches in shouting and singing Hosanna Hosanna, my hope is we don't get twisted up in what happened three days after that! I should probably end my message here because I remember the blood that was thrown on young women who were scared and pregnant and had no where to go and when they turned to the church they were called cursed. As the adulterous woman was thrown before the Pharisees and Jesus was asked what should be done with her He new the answer of the law but he knelt down He began to write in the dirt, and one by one they began to walk away until they were all gone. He went to the woman and He asked? Where are your accusers? She said they are not here, He said I don't accuse you either go in peace and sin no more.

I am assuming what you are saying that we dont get twisted up in what happened three days later...meaning our Savior nailed to the cross. Well I am very much twisted up in it...Whats the big deal about Jesus hanging on the cross...thats what God sent him for...Yes it greaves me that my Lord had to die in such a way...but thats why I have salvation today...so yes, I am very much twisted up in it...

May our Lord squat down tonight and write in the sand of our hearts that we too might walk away from this fiasco. That we might not sowe in a field of corruption and judgment for surely we will reap corruption and judgment. May the Lord pick up the soldiers ear from the ground and heal it back to his head for to live by the sword is to die by it! If we are not living sacrifices than we are zealots of unrighteous cause. God help us! Usually I would not openly speak this abruptly in a public setting. But this post was made in this public setting. Do not be deceived it is not by might or power but by the name of the Lord Jesus Christ and the bloodstained cross that we live. And but by the grace of God there go I.

Fiasco...I dont get it....The only fiasco I see going on is the rise of satanism and the destruction of all that is good. If Gods born-again christian children dont get out where the sinners can see them and take notice of them..Then this world is never going to get any better. When we were instructed to go out to all the world and preach the gospel...the Lord knew what it was going to be like in 2008...and I think he wants us to stand tall and fight the good fight of faith against satan and his followers!...

Now maybe I have taken some of the things that you said out of context here valorie...I dont know....but I read this quite a few times before i started to comment and I hope that what I have said is from the spirit that dwells within me. Jesus saved me from a wicked life and my goal in this life is to make him proud of my love of him and my work for him..But as far as im concerned..when im kneeling before God and he says well done my good and faithful servent....I dont want him to add, but couldnt you have spent just a little more time shouting my name from the mountain tops! Anyway, we believe what we believe and God will sort it all out on judgement day.






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Rick j Sane

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