Advanced Micro Devices Inc (AMD)

[pgerassi]

Wbmw:

Intel's Wolfdale is missing. Unavailable products are just mist. 16 products launched, none available. A classic paper launch. Its the old, "we'll get it to you real soon now!" Typical Intel refrain when they don't have any to sell.

And a bird in the hand is worth 100 in the bush. You can't run stuff when the CPU is missing. People would rather have a CPU, than none at all.

That's why Wolfdales are cold, they're plain flat missing.

Since when do you compare a year old CPU to one that is not even out yet for power? Why didn't they compare the 6400+ power consumption? Or the performance and power of that 65nm BE A64 X2 5000+ CPU? And add the NB's FSB and ODMC's power to the CPU? Because it would make the comparison more fair and show that the AMD isn't HOT. And comparing likely cherry picked parts (better for Intel, worse for AMD) doesn't make for good comparisons anyway.

Lets turn it around and compare the A64 X2 BE 5000+ to the last 90nm DC P4 top end. The BE blows it away on most benchmarks and the P4 is way HOT, thus all Intel CPUs are HOT and SLOW. That argument sounds so bad. Its just how yours sounds. Like comparing apples and grapes.

A year old single 6000+ sample may be HOT. I know of one X6800 65nm DC Conroe sample that used 124W on a benchmark test. It was only 2.93GHz and doesn't perform all that well using the UT3bench bot match compared to a A64 BE X2 5000+. But it is very HOT by your argument (and that didn't include memory controllers or FSB from the NB) compared to that 5000+, so thus all Conroes are HOT and slow.

Generalizing something on one (suspicious) test on one sample, yields very a very poor argument. Typical for you though.

Pete