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Re: WhiteNOC post# 4210

Friday, 03/05/2004 7:50:25 PM

Friday, March 05, 2004 7:50:25 PM

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There needs to be a distingishing of terms for this discussion.
a) the "..church.." in Biblical vernacular refers to the brotherhood of worshipping people
b) the "..Church.." refers to the formal organization associated with the academic, business and real estate management side of the religion.

What you, or others, may fail to realize is that the Holy Roman Catholic Church is absolutely full of highly questionable contradictions (..no offense intended..), non-Biblical asides, flip-flopping Papal positions, Popes, non-Popes due to their outrageous behavior, Cardinals whose positions were purchased for them by their families, and constant political intrigue that would make Dizzy City look like the Kestone Kops on a picnic. The trememdous sums being disbursed to victims of child abuse by Priests speaks to the obvious confusion and misdirection that has been in play.

Per your post: "....In the 6th century, Severus of Antioch said, "We should not separate in speech [Serge and Bacchus] who were joined in life." In the 10th century, St. Serge is described as the "sweet companion and lover" of St. Bacchus. Their sexual orientation was openly accepted by early Christian writers. The St. Catherine's icon even shows Jesus serving as "best man...."

Romans, Chapter 1 states in the following verses that: http://www.christiananswers.net/bible/rom1.html

24 Wherefore God also gave them up to uncleanness through the lusts of their own hearts, to dishonour their own bodies between themselves:

25 Who changed the truth of God into a lie, and worshipped and served the creature more than the Creator, who is blessed for ever. Amen.

26 For this cause God gave them up unto vile affections: for even their women did change the natural use into that which is against nature:

27 And likewise also the men, leaving the natural use of the woman, burned in their lust one toward another; men with men working that which is unseemly, and receiving in themselves that recompence of their error which was meet.

28 And even as they did not like to retain God in their knowledge, God gave them over to a reprobate mind, to do those things which are not convenient;

29 Being filled with all unrighteousness, fornication, wickedness, covetousness, maliciousness; full of envy, murder, debate, deceit, malignity; whisperers,

30 Backbiters, haters of God, despiteful, proud, boasters, inventors of evil things, disobedient to parents,

31 Without understanding, covenantbreakers, without natural affection, implacable, unmerciful:

32 Who knowing the judgment of God, that they which commit such things are worthy of death, not only do the same, but have pleasure in them that do them.


Hence the idea that Jesus, the Son of God, and who is one with the Spirit would stand as Best Man beside the condemmed is ridiculous. The prospect is preposterous, and an insult to anyone has read the story of Jesus and understands His works and messages.

Please also note that "..Bacchus.." was the '..Roman god of wine and mysteries..' http://www.loggia.com/myth/bacchus.html I'm not a Biblical scholar, but I had never heard of a "..St. Bacchus.." before today; and I spent a lot of time around my Catholixc friends in Elementary, Jr. High and High School. That's not saying he didn't exist, but he certainly was kept a secret from me.

John

.......According to the Great Pumpkin, ".....You're in .....iHub....., Charlie Brown....."!!!

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