OT, samples, haven't seen you at NMC for a while....wonder if you could email me.... try ron barnes 21 at yahoo...... interesting development at PP board....that I think you oughta know about...don't know if you can access it... or join this inactive board and pm me there, <a href="http://www.mickyd12203.proboards78.com/" target="_blank">http://www.mickyd12203.proboards78.com/</a>