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Re: bobjack post# 35513

Friday, 12/07/2007 2:06:52 PM

Friday, December 07, 2007 2:06:52 PM

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Bob, this is reprinted with permission of the poster at holygrailsm group at yahoo. What do you think ?

I had a little discussion with IB this week, and this may be related to
what you are seeing. It turns out they will not execute a market order
until a stock or ETF opens on its "primary" market. In the case of
many (or most) ETFs, this is the Amex.


I had an order in for TWM, and it was actively trading by 9:31 Eastern
(plenty of quotes & trades, and pretty narrow bid-ask spread). But my
order didn't execute, and TWM was going up. I changed it to a limit
order and got it to execute.

After discussion, it turned out that it didn't open on the Amex until
after 9:37, after the price had risen. So NO market or stop orders were
executed by IB (even with SMART routing) until then. Only limit or stop-
limit orders can be executed during that period of "limbo."

You CAN time the market!

But only after you trash the big 3 myths.

Myth 1 - its possible to get every point of every move
...Myth 2 - you'll never have a drawdown
......Myth 3 - you'll never have a loss

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