Zeev's Turnips Talk Politics (ZTTP)

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since you are unable to grasp the fact that the fanatics of Islam are at war with Western civilization, it is useless to argue reality with you -- facts are what they are

the 19 hijackers were religious fanatics

as are all the suiciders

fact -- the killing will go on until every suicide fanatic is dead and the remaining population in the Muslim nations decides to separate religion from political power

For the West, that realization came after centuries of war and killing

It is the strategy of Bush et al, to accelerated this process using free markets and free people to show that there is a better way to live