Zeev's Turnips Talk Politics (ZTTP)

[seabass]

>>>US citizens AREN'T being kiddnapped off the street, you are making that up<<<


Am I?


"José Padilla (born October 18, 1970), also known as Abdullah al-Muhajir or Muhajir Abdullah, is a United States citizen convicted of aiding terrorists. Padilla (see Names below) was arrested in Chicago on May 8, 2002, and was detained as a material witness until June 9, 2002, when President Bush designated him an illegal enemy combatant and transferred him to a military prison, arguing that he was thereby not entitled to trial in civilian courts.

Because Padilla was being detained without any criminal charges being formally made against him, he, through his lawyer, made a petition for a writ of habeas corpus to the United States District Court for the Southern District of New York, naming Secretary Donald Rumsfeld as the respondent to this petition. The government filed a motion to dismiss the petition...

Padilla's legal team filed a motion to dismiss the case, alleging that during his imprisonment he has been subjected to torture, including sensory deprivation, sleep deprivation, enforced stress positions and administered with various drugs including possibly LSD and PCP.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jos%C3%A9_Padilla_(alleged_terrorist)


And then there was this:

"WASHINGTON (Reuters) - U.S. lawmakers on Thursday offered apologies to a Canadian citizen who was deported by U.S. counterterrorism officials to Syria, where he says he was imprisoned and tortured.

Lawmakers from both parties also called on the Bush administration to apologize to Maher Arar, a Syrian-born software engineer still barred from entering the United States even though the Canadian government has cleared him of any links to terrorist groups.

"Our country made a mistake and has been unwilling to own up to it," California Republican Rep. Dana Rohrabacher said. "It reflects an arrogance I don't like to see in our government."

http://www.reuters.com/article/topNews/idUSN1827695920071018?feedType=RSS&feedName=topNews


Granted.......this guy was not a US citizen but he may as well have been. Bush has given himself the authority to declare anyone he so deems an enemy combatant and he can do it without any involvement of the courts. Once he's done that with the stroke of a pen it allows him to strip that person of all legal rights under the US constitution which could easily place him/her in exactly the same situation as the Canadian they hauled off to a Syrian hell hole and tortured for 12 months.

If you were a real republican you would confirm and acknowledge that this is true and you would then admit being disgusted by it. If on the other hand you're a Bush republican you will blow this off as liberal crazy talk and move on to something that will make you feel better. Like Fox news where you'll never hear anything like this....