Ken ... I'm a free rider for now so I can't PM. Have words left my mouth in the past that should not have ?? I agree with all you said, but for some reason I felt as if they were aimed at me and something I (or Nickk) had said in the past. If so, I definitely post-apologize for anything I pre-said. please let me know. also, James-3 talks a lot about the negative power of the tongue.