PS the mms will attempt to deceive you buy dropping price under bid with big trades, infact there a gig one on fri, there using the short shares they have against you by shuffling to another broker, as more and more short shares disappear they no longer have the power to do this, you don't think they would use there own money to sell at a lose do you, if the investors pull togeather on this, it will be the frist time ever and will send a clear massage across the investor world, probley will make the news.