Zeev's Turnips Talk Politics (ZTTP)

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No sea, you're right, we aren't quite down to your sexual hypocrisies, yet. The "I DOUBT IT" were the words of another.

"Some combination" of the so-called "family" Republican values i can handle ..

Exclude .."Opposition to homosexual marriage" as that is obviously discrimination on sexual grounds.

Parental involvement in education, I agree with, but have problems with the concept of home schooling as there are many social implications for the child and it could in too many cases leave the poor kids open to religious indoctrination through ages in which seems to me all children the should indiscriminately be encouraged and opened to critical thinking

"Adoption over abortion" to me leads to the woman's right to decide and am fully in favor of education and the encouragement of responsible sexual practices to hopefully minimize the cases of any woman getting herself into the situation where she would have to make that heartrending choice. In Australia, at least, there is a shortage of prospective adoptive parents. In cases of rape, to me it is absolutely disgusting that any women should be denied an abortion at a point where the foetus could be described as no more than an amalgam of non thinking or non "feeling" cells.

Damned if I can see what "religious commitment" has to do with morality.

Obviously everyone would agree with "support for healthy choices such as a nutritious diet and physical activity which just makes simple, ordinary common sense it is a societal thing to ensure that all are able to afford the nutritious diet, bite.

While there is certainly a good case and some need for some "medical screening" I do think that that practice can be and is abused by some medico's for financial and/or religious reasons and by some patients for those and other concerns.

Support for abstinence is right on, to some age, but can't see carrying that to the absurdity of before marriage just because of some puritanical, black and white religious belief.

Education regarding risks associated with early sexual activity such as teen pregnancies and sexually transmitted diseases am fully in agreement with. Thought these conservatives of which we are talking were basically against honest, caring and open sexual education in schools?

All decent people for certain would support "policies
that protect children from obscenity and exploitation."

While we do have "a political party in Australia that pops up in encyclopedias under "family values"" they thankfully do not make "weekly headlines for perverse sexual behavior", YET. You have a sick one, alright. I mean alwrong as it is certainly a sick song.

Family values in Australian politics

The Family First Party originally contested the 2002 South Australian state election, where former Assemblies of God

GOOD GOD!!! .. your inspired fundamentalist driftwood ..

pastor Dr Andrew Evans won one of the eleven seats in the 22-seat South Australian Legislative Council on 4 percent of the state-wide vote. The party made their federal debut at the 2004 general election, electing Steve Fielding on 2 percent of the Victorian vote in the Australian Senate, out of six Victorian senate seats up for election. Both MPs were able to be elected with Australia's Single Transferable Vote and Group voting ticket system in the upper house. The party:

* Opposes abortion
* Opposes euthanasia
* Opposes harm reduction, favouring prevention, zero tolerance, rehabilitation, and avoidance
* Opposes gay adoptions, In vitro fertilisation (IVF) for gay couples, and does not acknowledge gay civil unions ..

THESE CREEPS WON'T EVEN ALLOW OUR FINE HOMOSEXUAL CITIZENS A RECOGNIZED
PERSONALIZED UNION .. TO MY MIND THEY ARE CRASS AND UNFEELING RELIGIOUS BIGOTS.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Family_values

but, they are not thankfully yet, anyway into
"weekly headlines for perverse sexual behavior".

As you see I am again into non distinctive groups and overlapping values, but your point is well made; we are
not to your base level in politico sexual obscenities, yet.

Leaving sex aside our "honest" John Howard's Liberal party, who
will, head feeling still says just must, lose the next election
at east is equal to your Republican's penchant for lying. Howard's
boys and many of Rudd's labor opposition, too have echoed Shrub's
lies regarding Iraq and then in 2001 we had the "children overboard"
affair which was a big factor in the last federal election here.

Gut feeling still says Howard must lose, too, but since
he said he didn't have any more of "bucks, does and kits" ..
to pull out of his hat, he has pulled out a couple of "herds", so sometimes
that "gut feeling" is a bit shaky. Actually that fits as am hungry for change.

"What Do You Call Them? Male rabbits are bucks. Female rabbits are does. Newborn
rabbits are kits. Young rabbits are bunnies. A whole bunch of rabbits are called a herd."

http://www.hopperhome.com/hopperhome-anatomy.htm

ps: Knew males were "bucks" and always loved "bunnies", but though
obviously knew female rabbits do help make newborns didn't know
they were all called "kits" or or that some "kits" became "does".

Seems in a rabbit herd you have the whole kit and caboodle.

Hope some of all that makes some sense

Will place the "children overboard" LIE in Reply. fuagf