They made a deal with Jack. I was at arms length and wasn't kept informed. The only way I knew a deal must have been made was when I tried to call Mike at work and was told he had quit. Al and Mike were given a lot of shares, salaries and were underwritten to complete the technology; a pretty good package I'd say. There is a lot more to the story, but somewhere in the mix I have a NDA which covers a small part of what went on, which I still honor. So, I stop a the point in the story where I signed the NDA. I for one don't blame Ray, but two other people for where RSMI is today. Chipwa1