Zeev's Turnips Talk Politics (ZTTP)

[seabass]

>>>I can understand why some people lump all of us together as nut cases<<<


I don't know that that's true but why is there so little substance behind all these theories? Nobody who advances a well reasoned theory about anything - 9/11 plots or otherwise - will be called a nutcase.

For example, insisting that the plane that crashed into the Pentagon was not AA 77 but a US fighter jet doesn't really represent a well reasoned theory since:

1. DNA from AA 77 passengers were recovered from the crash site

2. Easily identifiable parts from an American Airlines 757 were recovered from the crash site.

3. AA 77 was tracked by radar from the moment it took off from Washington until just moments before impact and those who insist it didn't crash into the Pentagon can't explain what happened to it.

4. It ignores a boatload of witnesses and above all.......it ignores the fact that getting thousands of people to cooperate and cover up a story like this is simply impossible.


The Pentagon is bordered by Interstate 395 and Washington Boulevard, on the side where the impact occurred. Steve Riskus witnessed the plane crash into the Pentagon, as he was driving along Washington Boulevard and stopped to take photographs moments after the impact.[21] Mary Lyman, who was on I-395, saw the airplane pass over at a "steep angle toward the ground and going fast" and then saw the cloud of smoke from the Pentagon.[22] Jim Sutherland, also on I-395, witnessed the plane pass 50 feet overhead, heading in a straight line into the Pentagon.[23] Mary Ann Owens, of Gannett News Service, was stuck in traffic near the Pentagon when she saw the airplane pass 50 to 75 feet overhead and crash into the Pentagon.[24] Another witness, Daryl Donley, saw the crash as he was driving on Washington Boulevard. Among debris that was scattered as the plane crashed, he found a "scorched green oxygen tank marked 'Cabin air. Airline use'" on the road.[24] Mr. Donley also had a camera with him, and took some of the first photographs after the crash.[25] USA Today reporter Mike Walter, while driving on Washington Boulevard, also witnessed the crash.[26] He recounted to CNN, "...looked out my window. I saw this plane, the jet, American Airlines jet coming. And I thought, this doesn't add up. It's really low. And I saw it. It just went — I mean, it was like a cruise missile with wings, it went right there and slammed right into the Pentagon. Huge explosion."[13]


Lloyd England's taxicab hit by a lightpole as American Airlines Flight 77 passed low over Washington Boulevard and crashed into the Pentagon.Terrance Kean, who lived in a nearby apartment building, heard the noise of loud jet engines, glanced out his window, and saw "very, very large passenger jet." He watched "it just plow right into the side of the Pentagon. The nose penetrated into the portico. And then it sort of disappeared, and there was fire and smoke everywhere."[27] Terry Morin, who worked at the nearby Navy Annex, saw the airliner pass 100 feet overhead, moments before it crashed into the Pentagon.[28] Passengers aboard a Washington Metro train heading to Ronald Reagan National Airport also saw the crash and explosion, including Allen Cleveland who explained [he] "looked out the window to see a jet heading down toward the Pentagon."[14] AP reporter Dave Winslow recounted, "I saw the tail of a large airliner. ... It plowed right into the Pentagon."[29] Tim Timmerman, who is a pilot himself, noticed American Airlines markings on the aircraft as he saw it hit the Pentagon.[30] Marine Commander Mike Dobbs, who worked at the Pentagon, was on an upper level of the outer ring, looking out the window when he saw the crash.[23] Other drivers on Washington Boulevard, Interstate 395, and Columbia Pike, as well as people in nearby locations such as Pentagon City, Crystal City also witnessed the crash.[22]

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/American_Airlines_Flight_77


Almost seems like those who keep these things coming have the attitude that it's their duty to call it to everyone's attention but they are under no obligation at all to make any of it seem plausible. Possible is good enough and then it's up to each and everyone to work up their own theory of how it could have happened. Wouldn't call it nuts but I would call it a poor attention getter. Most of us have enough to do keeping tabs of known crimes by this administration.