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Read Stephen Gregory's testimony[Assistant Commissioner (F.D.N.Y.)] carefully, and you'll see how both he and another man had trouble accepting what they saw with their own eyes. And trust me on this, people on the boards have real problems reconciling what HAS to be the case, with the horror of what that means.
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S. GREGORY
may have been parked near where you were?
A. No. I know I was with an officer from Ladder
146, a Lieutenant Evangelista, who ultimately called me
up a couple of days later just to find out how I was.
We both for whatever reason -- again, I don't know how
valid this is with everything that was going on at that
particular point in time, but for some reason I thought
that when I looked in the direction of the Trade Center
before it came down, before No. 2 came down, that I saw
low-level flashes. In my conversation with Lieutenant
Evangelista, never mentioning this to him, he
questioned me and asked me if I saw low-level flashes
in front of the building, and I agreed with him because
I thought -- at that time I didn't know what it was. I
mean, it could have been as a result of the building
collapsing, things exploding, but I saw a flash flash
flash and then it looked like the building came down.
Q. Was that on the lower level of the building
or up where the fire was?
A. No, the lower level of the building. You
know like when they demolish a building, how when they
blow up a building, when it falls down? That's what I
thought I saw. And I didn't broach the topic to him,
but he asked me. He said I don't know if I'm crazy,
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S. GREGORY
but I just wanted to ask you because you were standing
right next to me. He said did you see anything by the
building? And I said what do you mean by see
anything? He said did you see any flashes? I said,
yes, well, I thought it was just me. He said no, I saw
them, too.
I don't know if that means anything. I mean,
I equate it to the building coming down and pushing
things down, it could have been electrical explosions,
it could have been whatever. But it's just strange
that two people sort of say the same thing and neither
one of us talked to each other about it. I mean, I
don't know this guy from a hole in the wall. I was
just standing next to him. I never met the man before
in my life. He knew who I was I guess by my name on my
coat and he called me up, you know, how are you doing?
How's everything? And, oh, by the way did you ... It
was just a little strange.
Q. On the television pictures it appeared as
well, before the first collapse, that there was an
explosion up on the upper floors.
A. I know about the explosion on the upper
floors. This was like eye level. I didn't have to go
like this. Because I was looking this way. I'm not
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S. GREGORY
going to say it was on the first floor or the second
floor, but somewhere in that area I saw to me what
appeared to be flashes. I don't know how far down this
was already. I mean, we had heard the noise but, you
know, I don't know.
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Stephen Gregory's testimony[Assistant Commissioner (F.D.N.Y.)]
http://graphics8.nytimes.com/packages/pdf/nyregion/20050812_WTC_GRAPHIC/9110008.PDF
which came from this....
http://graphics8.nytimes.com/packages/html/nyregion/20050812_WTC_GRAPHIC/met_WTC_histories_full_01.h...
which I got from this....
http://www.whatreallyhappened.com/wtc2_cutter.html