Cosmo, you say that they have not produced results in 7 years. You could say that they have not produced results that you personally have seen/purchased/tested or results that have resulted in revenue. Based on the reports by Telcordia, and statements by many other companies, and individuals I would have to say they have produced quite a bit. I don't have a clue how long it takes or how much work goes into a tech development like this. I am quite sure several if not many companies have worked longer and put much more money into trying to produce something like Cupria. <br /> <br /> As for what evidence I have that Ray and Brad are working hard v.what you have they are not, I would much rather assume a person is good than assume they are bad with no evidence to prove either. <br /> <br /> As I said before I can look at a person and believe they may be a thief, liar, drug user, but to accuse them requires evidence. <br /> Here on this board posters feel free to accuse management of anything they can think of even when they have no ability to know the facts of the accusation. <br /> <br /> These accusations tell me more about the accuser than the accused. It is perfectly acceptable to me for a person to choose not to invest because they feel results are taking too long, or they feel they can't trust management, or just gut feelings. It is legitimate to post that they have these feelings and chose not to invest. What just rubs me the wrong way is to state as fact accusations that a person has no evidence to back up. <br /> <br /> I would much rather assume honesty and be wrong, then to assume dishonesty and live thinking the worst of those around me. Even if my assumption cost me money. Losing money is preferable to losing heart and soul.