Hi Coach...Here are the charts on those...if that will help...I do not have a suggestion or an answer to Your question...maybe others do! IVOC <img src=http://stockcharts.com/def/servlet/SharpChartv05.ServletDriver?chart=ivoc,uu[w,a]daclyiay[dc][pb50!b200][vc60][iul14!lg]&r=5147> LBTT <img src=http://stockcharts.com/def/servlet/SharpChartv05.ServletDriver?chart=lbtt,uu[w,a]daclyiay[dc][pb50!b200][vc60][iul14!lg]&r=3157>