Zeev's Turnips Talk Politics (ZTTP)

[seabass]

>>>but we should not speak of these events because they don't matter<<<


Would you stop it already? Speak about it all day long if you wish but also recognize that it's still a US occupation and still a civil war where droves of civilians are slaughtered along with suspected terrorists, creating more terrorists in the process. So I think I can disagree with your "victory" description of these inner city bloodbaths without marginalizing the heroism of the troops.