Doessnt actually thats a wonderful trade we call the "old ladies" trade...you've seen me talk about it here... it's more than reliable on most days to the upsdie right thru the 4.00 close to the 4.15 end of futures trading... it usually starts about 3.15 on the right type of day... it matter not what "they" it matters that you see it and trade it when it starts to move HAPPY NEW YEAR TO ALL