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Re: Did you think AMD was lying or just unrealistic when they claimed mid-2005?
>> Neither, nor. Their wording was ok, taken with a wink.

What does that mean, exactly? If AMD says their 65nm process is in mid-2005, and they aren't lying, and they aren't unrealistic, but when it comes 18 months later, you look in hindsight and say that it was all "taken with a wink"?

Re: What do you thing about their 45nm claims?
>> Depends on whether they go into the node without metal-gates or not.

I think Elmer's point is that AMD's 45nm claims should also be "taken with a wink", even assuming that it won't have HK/MG.

Re: I'd think it would be the better idea to start 45nm in Singapore rather than Dresden, and not even trying without metal gates. Which would put availability in mid 09 timeframe imo.

AMD doesn't have a fab in Singapore, nor are they even planning one. Are you confusing fabs with assembly facilities, perhaps?