Yet another small bump for 65nm.... Those new Turion skus speak a lot to AMD's progress at 65nm: <pre> Part Name Freq 90nm TDP 65nm TDP TL-52 1.6GHz 31W --- TL-56 1.8GHz 33W 31W TL-58 1.9GHz --- 31W TL-60 2.0GHz 35W 31W TL-64 2.2GHz 35W?? 35W TL-66 2.3GHz --- 35W</pre> Looks like AMD has gained at most 100MHz at iso-power, or 4W of power savings at iso-frequency. So much for AMD being able to shrink Intel's margins.... <a href='read_msg.asp?message_id=18273173'>#msg-18273173</a> They'll have to learn how to shrink their process, first. ;-)