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chipguy, ever the Intel apologist! No offense intended, but while the whole world is acknowleging Intel's 90nm is delayed, you just came up with one of the most aggressive spins I've ever seen -

I don't think that was ever in the cards. It doesn't make
sense to introduce a new product on a new process
leading into the Xmas season. Even if everything ramps
smoothly it can't accomodate more than a fraction of
demand and you risk a massive Osborne effect for the
older product. Intel learned that lesson with the MMX
Pentium. IMO once we are past Dec 25 we will hear a
lot more about Prescott and 90 nm and what we hear
won't not be good news for AMD enthusiasts hoping
for an Intel stumble on the desktop in 2004.

Maybe it wasn't 'in the cards', but it sure was everywhere else!

Also this post:

"I do find comments like this:
A new bios and some better tuning from our part...
quite troubling. It seems the system as shipped did not meet up with his performance expectations...
It is clear the review has been delayed based on Johans comments."

That is odd. Hardly a shining example of the scientific
method in action. Seems like they are changing the
experiment until they get the results they want.

OK, let me see if I understand this: When benchmark sites spend time optimizing for Intel compiler flags and BIOS for Xeon, then it is good. When sites spend time optimizing a new Opteron system that they've only had for a short time, it is cheating.

Heads I win, tails you lose! Interesting philosophy.