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Thursday, 03/22/2007 7:34:44 PM

Thursday, March 22, 2007 7:34:44 PM

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beware of a scam!!!!!!!!!!!self proclaimed reverend of big tree ministries who will get your email from dan chublak. he will gather $1100 per million and save in his dinar bank until he feels he has enough to go to iraq and turn it into nid and then come back and mail you the nid of which most of his profit goes to his ministry for crippled children. the ministry is a self proclaimed ministry and he has no u.s. treasury registration letter like dinartrade, and no i.r.s. registration for his church.
Wed, 21 Mar 2007 05:28:46 -0700 (PDT)
From: "GRINCH MANN" <grinchman007@yahoo.com> View Contact Details Add Mobile Alert
Subject: RE: Sincerest Apology
To: "Maltass" <maltass@poetrybox.com>
do you have a u.s. treasury registration certificate? who gave you my email?

Maltass <maltass@poetrybox.com> wrote: Dear Mann,

I'll address you that way, in order to assist in removing the stigmata of the name you go by of "Grinch". I believe you are much better than that.
First off, a scammer wouldn't respond to any eMails or get involved in a eDiscussion like this.

If you as I note by your listing scripture are in fact a Christian, let's get a few things straight.
1. Like you, I'm sitting here responding in kind.
2. Like you, and most others, we all are simply trying to make a living and
3. Like "possibly you" trying to help those in need when able.
4. If you would like to continue the eMail string and you are in fact a Christian it would be appreciated that the profane and derogatory language stop. I'd personally appreciate it.

To your comment, Babylon is infact a terrible place in the Bible - you are 100% correct. Is there a problem for me to broker the Dinars, Yuan, Gold, Silver, Platinum and or any other currency to 1. Survive, 2. Help my clients with investments, and 3. Use a good portion of my profits to bring "good" to the world?

Do you have children? If one of your children was in need, or one of your family members, would you refuse my little ministry from helping him or her? Would you care if I made the funds from a "legal" yet questionable place if the outcome was to help?

My name is Edward Maltass, I'm CEO of Edventure Inc. Past Marketing manager at IBM, president and Reverend to Big Tree Ministry and a real person and father of 4 kids.

I fully understand how frustrated you are - it came across in your first eMail. There are a million scammers on the Internet, but you really don't need to reply so harshly to everyone especially to someone who immediately apologized.

You asked a question as to why we sell our Dinars for $1100.00? To respect your intelligence, it's because our business is personal. We gather enough orders to physically fly one of my contacts to Jordan and then go into Iraq to the Central Bank. My contact loves this opportunity because for him he gets to visit family in Jordan. Fro my business, it ensures that the currency we get our clients is directly from the Central Bank of Iraq.

With regards to your second question - do we donate all the $1100.00 to children in need: First off, we don't make $1100.00. You mentioned it costing you $850 to buy dinars correct? Well, we buy them for about $640.00 per dinar direct - then we have travel expenses etc. Let's say that our total cost is $850.00 per dinar. That's a profit of $1100 - $850.00 = $250.00 per $1100.00 order. Minus our time in communicating with our clients, Next day delivery (once in our hands) etc. So, out of the $250.00 per order if we have about $87.00 ; then most of that goes towards mission trips here in the US and over sea's.

If I can ask you a few question now and if you can answer it "kindly".

What is it that has caused you so much pain, that you had to respond to a one sentence advertisement for my business so harshly? And secondly, I'm assuming you are a Christian - is my assumption correct?

Well, while I don't expect any business from you - It was nice meeting you. No matter what our personalities are, you are a child of Gods.

Regards,
Dr. Edward Maltass Rev.
-----Original Message-----
From: GRINCH MANN [mailto:grinchman007@yahoo.com]
Sent: Tuesday, March 20, 2007 10:34 PM
To: Maltass
Subject: RE: Sincerest Apology


revelations 17 and 18 ...read the whore wears red and purple and sits on a not yet awoken beast with 7 heads and ten horns and she is sporting a tattoo on her forehead that reads "babylon the great" and she has in her hand a gold jeweled cup that is brewing terror and all the kings and rulers of every nation will flirt and perform adultery with her until they are all drunk with her richness ,then the beast she is sitting on will awaken and take her and them all to a firey inferno,a living hellfire.

the 25k n.i.dinar notes are red and purple and represent the whore and you are selling this whore for your betterment and then of course you are willing to throw a little chump change to the cripples.

give me a fxxxxxg break!!!!!!!!!!!
gltu!!!!!!!!!!

Maltass <maltass@poetrybox.com> wrote:
Dear Mr. Grinch,

Apparently you have a lot of negativity in you. If you ever want free Christian counseling feel
free to let me know. I'll listen to your pains for "Free".

Did you ever see the movie Bambi? "If you don't have nothing nice to say, don't say anything at all.".

May God sooth your pains as he soothed mine years ago.

A long time ago, I learned that if you apologize like a gentleman to a hostile person and they still respond negatively
to a sincere apology, you must raise that person up in prayer.

Regards,
Simply another human being.

-----Original Message-----
From: GRINCH MANN [mailto:grinchman007@yahoo.com]
Sent: Tuesday, March 20, 2007 10:01 PM
To: Maltass
Subject: Re: Sincerest Apology
anybody can buy n.i.dinars for $850 per million .where do you get off selling them for $1100 and having to wait weeks to get the dinar.? and who cares about your cause? what you give the whole $1100 to little crippled children? you sound more like a scammer than any thing else. scram beat it. how did you get my e mail is what i want to know?

Maltass <maltass@poetrybox.com> wrote: Dear Mr Grinch,

My sincere apology. I'm also a minister with Big Tree Ministry a non profit helping children in need, the profits
we make selling dinar go towards that cause.

Sorry to trouble you.

Regards and God Bless,
Dr. Edward Maltass Rev.

----Original Message-----
From: GRINCH MANN [mailto:grinchman007@yahoo.com]
Sent: Tuesday, March 20, 2007 7:22 PM
To: Maltass
Subject: Re: Where to Buy Dinars From


get lost jerk

Maltass <maltass@poetrybox.com> wrote:
Don't forget to visit http://www.dinarbank.com for personal service on Dinar
Purchases and Wealth Mentoring.
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