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Re: rwdutch post# 23478

Tuesday, 07/02/2024 7:49:49 PM

Tuesday, July 02, 2024 7:49:49 PM

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You are completely wrong. Maybe you should contact a lawyer because you are clueless. If the deeds, dirty are not are done as an "official act" it is protected and immune from Federal prosecution. Not that you get to say they are dirty deeds like to claim Biden, Obama, Bush are, but not Trump's while it is Trump with 4 indictments, 88 charges, not Obama/Biden.


Amazingly, you and a few others don't understand what has happened here. The whole point now is Presidents can commit dirty deeds, crimes if it was an "official act" as a President in his official capacity. The decision did not talk about being immune from dirty deeds versus good deeds, it talked about being immune between private acts versus official acts. Go find in this decision where it says anything you just said about doing dirty deeds. Trump was convicted of a crime. Whether you feel he is guilty or not is not the issue. He is not saying it did it as an "official act so he is immune. Again forget that you say he is innocent. It's the principle. Biden, Obama, Bush all can make the same claim on any dirty deed, or crime, they did it as an official act and they are immune from prosecution. That is what this decision says. It is not a great day for America. It will come back to haunt you. Bookmark this.



In sum, the majority today endorses an expansive vision of Presidential immunity that was never recognized by the Founders, any sitting President, the Executive Branch, or even President Trump’s lawyers, until now. Settled understandings of the Constitution are of little use to the majority in this case, and so it ignores them. … In fact, the majority’s dividing line between “official” and “unofficial” conduct narrows the conduct considered “unofficial” almost to a nullity.

The majority “pays lip service” to the idea that presidents are not above the law “but it then proceeds to place former Presidents beyond the reach of the federal criminal laws for any abuse of official power.”

The President of the United States is the most powerful person in the country, and possibly the world. When he uses his official powers in any way, under the majority’s reasoning, he now will be insulated from criminal prosecution. Orders the Navy’s Seal Team 6 to assassinate a political rival? Immune. Organizes a military coup to hold onto power? Immune. Takes a bribe in exchange for a pardon? Immune. Immune, immune, immune.

… Even if these nightmare scenarios never play out, and I pray they never do, the damage has been done. The relationship between the President and the people he serves has shifted irrevocably. In every use of official power, the President is now a king above the law.

Moving forward, however, all former Presidents will be cloaked in such immunity. If the occupant of that office misuses official power for personal gain, the criminal law that the rest of us must abide will not provide a backstop.

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