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Sunday, June 30, 2024 11:50:48 AM
I simply noted that safety nets ARE SOCIALISM ---- and that those safety nets show we have a bunch of WISE socialist programs - much needed . More importantly - if you read fair history you will find that the final vote may have been two party the initiation is solely DEM. And most recently with the ACA (Obamacare) the R side did not vote for this helpful program and only now - as 65% of the population says they like it does the R side stop talking about repeal. So - that hand (of on the one hand) is the product of D --- and then over time - ff they become accepted by the population and indeed loved --- the R side has joined in. To contrast with respect --- when Paul Ryan wanted to cut SSA and Medicare he did it with a true sense of conservative economics and while I disagree violently - I understand how he was truly and with honesty driven by an effort to balance the budget. Today - as R beats up select programs like Medicaid - I do not buy there is an honest - intellectual based budget constraint philosophy --- not after the R party in four years created nearly 9T in deficit and debt and want to do the same again.. Or said another way - it is not correct to claim that deficit spending and tax cuts for the rich is capitalism --- and deficit spending and efforts to reduce income inequality and solve true problems -- socialism.
The second concern is one I can understand. At same time - when the programs are a helping hand they are called socialism and when they support Big Tech -- Big Oil (one dollar leases) -- Big Ag (called the "family farm") - etc. they are called needed subsidies
And -- of interest as i read a post that starts with there are two concepts at play here ---- is the below copied sentence
What many people fear is a transformation of our form of Government to some form of authoritarian regime using the tactics of Marxism to bring us “socialism” through the equitable redistribution of wealth from a formerly sovereign people to an authoritative state.
I think we can all agree the jailing of F and F is an authoritarian state - across two R and two D presidents. And bluntly - is it an effort at Executive control (v free market) or Authoritarian ----- ? or is it an effort to make them public and GOV run (socialism) ----- or maybe it is both and thus it lasts and lasts. I do not want Marxism and I would suggest if that would be a real threat it is from the left (but Bernie and Elizabeth and now the SQAD are not the majority of D). I do not want a supremely powerful authoritarian White House (or now SCOTUS) and I would suggest that if that is a real threat it is coming from the right.
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