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Sunday, 06/23/2024 7:25:31 AM

Sunday, June 23, 2024 7:25:31 AM

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From today's NY Times, raises the question of how civilians are defined:

"They have also seen the videos of scores of people in civilian clothes looting and attacking residents of the rural Israeli villages during the Hamas raids."

"A few survivors said they recognized Gazans they had previously employed among the infiltrators. Videos showed some crowds jeering at and abusing hostages as they were paraded through Gaza on Oct. 7."

And some historical context, from around the internets:

"The U.S. post-9/11 wars in Iraq, Afghanistan, Yemen, Syria, and Pakistan have taken a tremendous human toll on those countries. As of September 2021, an estimated 432,093 civilians in these countries have died violent deaths as a result of the wars. As of May 2023, an estimated 3.6-3.8 million people have died indirectly in post-9/11 war zones."

https://press.un.org/en/2022/sc14904.doc.htm (before this war)

"The concept of the civilian in wartime as a legal category is fairly new, but the problem is far older. Noncombatants have been a target of organized violence throughout history, with records of mass killing and the systematic destruction of infrastructure dating to the earliest written descriptions of armed conflict."

So, the question is why is Israel called out for genocide in this particular war? And the answer is, Israel.

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