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Re: Barron4664 post# 794332

Wednesday, 05/22/2024 10:28:08 AM

Wednesday, May 22, 2024 10:28:08 AM

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Barron

yes - these are unique !!!

The GOV has called them equity and the money "sent" to F and F is called an investment not a loan
I imagine the GOV books reflect this

At same time - normally Preferred Stock are issued without an expiration date - for last 20 years or so (in prior years most JPS had maturity dates).

I do not think the SP have a maturity date but --- but ---- I do believe the GOV has the right to demand payment as if they matured - a put on F and F (this put might be after x years like 10 years OR OR when F and F have X in capital OR OR before F and F can again return to ---- ====== . Thus while an investment the GOV has a right to demand they be redeemed !!! So that cost to F and F - about 200B in cash sits on them as if it were debt and maybe more like DEBT that is matured --- but redemption is delayed while dividends are paid?