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Tuesday, 04/30/2024 7:50:33 PM

Tuesday, April 30, 2024 7:50:33 PM

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The Soft Landing Is Global, but It’s Cushiest in America

"Beware Economists Who Won’t Admit They Were Wrong
Dec. 18, 2023
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That's one trait of Krugman's i've enjoyed from the start, he admits when he's wrong. I don't
recall ever seeing one of our many illustrious trolls admit they have been one.It's weird
that they won't, then again Trump doesn't. Please tell me if i'm wrong on the trolls. wink


Related: [...]JPMorgan’s Dimon warns inflation, political polarization and wars are creating risks not seen since WWII
NEW YORK (AP) — The nation’s most influential banker, JPMorgan Chase CEO Jamie Dimon, told investors Monday that he continues to expect the U.S. economy to be resilient and grow this year. But he worries geopolitical events including the war in Ukraine and the Israel-Hamas war, as well as U.S. political polarization, might be creating an environment that “may very well be creating risks that could eclipse anything since World War II.”
[...]Because of these issues, Dimon said he is less optimistic that the U.S. economy will achieve a “soft landing,” which he defined as modest growth along with declining inflation and interest rates, compared to the broader market. While he says the investors are pricing in a “70% to 80%” chance of a soft landing, Dimon thinks the chances of such an ideal outcome are “a lot less” than that.
P - Also, at a time when some investors and economists are questioning whether the Federal Reserve can make good on its projection for three interest rate cuts this year, Dimon warned of the possibility of rates rising to 8% or higher. The Fed’s benchmark rate is currently in a range of 5.25% to 5.50%.
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.. and ..
B402, Why US economy is powering ahead of Europe's
[...]He pointed out that European countries have seen not only a bigger increase in prices, but also a greater propensity for businesses to pass them on to consumers.
P - "Both of these factors have helped U.S. inflation moderate to a faster extent than in many countries, especially Europe," he said.
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Economies all over the world are lowering inflation while avoiding serious recession — but growth in the United States stands out.


Americans have only slowly spent down the savings they amassed during the early pandemic years, so the money has continued to trickle
through the economy like a slow-release booster shot. Amir Hamja/The New York Times

By Jeanna Smialek, Ana Swanson, Alan Rappeport and Jim Tankersley

Reporting from Washington
Feb. 2, 2024

The world is starting 2024 on an optimistic economic note, as inflation fades globally and growth remains more resilient than many forecasters had expected. Yet one country stands out for its surprising strength: the United States.

After a sharp pop in prices rocked the world in 2021 and 2022 — fueled by supply chain breakdowns tied to the pandemic, then oil and food price spikes related to Russia’s invasion of Ukraine — many nations are now watching inflation recede. And that is happening without the painful recessions that many economists had expected as central banks raised interest rates to bring inflation under control.

But the details differ from place to place. Forecasters from the Federal Reserve to the International Monetary Fund have been most surprised at the remarkable strength of the U.S. economy, while growth in places like the United Kingdom and Germany remains more lackluster. The question is why America has pulled out ahead of other developed economies in the pack.

The I.M.F. said this week .. https://www.nytimes.com/2024/01/30/business/imf-global-economic-outlook.html .. that it expected the United States to grow 2.1 percent, a sharp upgrade from the previous estimate of 1.5 percent. Other major advanced economies are also expected to grow, albeit less quickly. The euro area is expected to notch out 0.9 percent growth, as is Japan, and the United Kingdom is forecast to expand by 0.6 percent.

“This is a good situation, let’s be honest, this is a good economy,” Jerome H. Powell, the chair of the U.S. Federal Reserve, said at a news conference this week — two of nearly 20 times that he called the data “good” during his remarks.

Evidence of that strength continued on Friday, when a blockbuster jobs report showed that employers had added 353,000 .. https://www.nytimes.com/live/2024/02/02/business/jobs-report-january-economy .. jobs in January and wages grew at a rapid clip.

America’s outperformance has come from a combination of luck and judgment, economists said. Below is a rundown of some of the factors behind the comparatively strong performance — starting with those that reflect policy choices and moving to factors that owe more to fortune.

One reason for U.S. resilience: fiscal policy.

Part of the reason that economic growth has been so surprisingly strong in the United States is simple: The American government has continued to spend a lot of money.

Government expenditures as a share of overall output hovered around 35 percent in America in the years leading up to the pandemic, based on I.M.F. data. But in 2020 and 2021, they jumped above 40 percent as the government responded to the coronavirus with about $5 trillion .. https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2022/03/11/us/how-covid-stimulus-money-was-spent.html .. in relief and stimulus to people, businesses, institutions, and state and local governments.

Both states and households have only slowly spent down the savings they amassed during those pandemic years, so the money has continued to trickle through the economy like a slow-release booster shot. On top of that, government spending has remained elevated as the Biden administration has begun to make sweeping infrastructure and climate investments.

“As the economy recovered, the U.S. just poured more kerosene onto the fire,” said Kristin Forbes, an economist at the MIT Sloan School of Management and a former Bank of England official.

Ms. Forbes noted that America’s deficit as a share of its gross domestic product .. https://www.imf.org/external/datamapper/GGXCNL_G01_GDP_PT@FM/ADVEC/FM_EMG/FM_LIDC .. is larger than that in many other advanced economies, and today’s spending is adding to the American debt pile. Given that, strong growth today could come at a cost — including higher interest bills — down the road.

Administration officials have suggested it was worth the trade-off.

Lael Brainard, who heads President Biden’s National Economic Council, told reporters last week that the combined outlays had allowed families to “weather this really disruptive period of time and bounce back.”

Yet government spending doesn’t fully explain the divergence between the United States and other economies. Other countries also spent a lot .. https://www.oecd.org/els/soc/OECD2023-Social-Expenditure-SOCX-Update-Rise-and-fall.pdf .. in response to the pandemic, and places like the euro area and the United Kingdom are still spending .. https://data.oecd.org/chart/7kCN .. more than they did before the pandemic in recent years, as a share of output.

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[Insert: Yes, but not as much and in different ways. See again: B402, Why US economy is powering ahead of Europe's
[...] High inflation has been a painful experience for many Americans and has shaped their view of how the economy is faring. But a strong jobs market has helped disposable income, which is the engine behind consumer spending.
P - The unemployment rate in the US has been below 4% since February 2022, which is on a par with historic lows. And while prices climbed steeply, real wages have risen too. Low-income households have seen some of the strongest real wage growth.
P - The US has also enjoyed a productivity spike in 2023, growing at its fastest pace in years.
[...]Julia Pollak, chief economist at ZipRecruiter, points to the flexible labour laws which allowed companies to slash workforces at the start of the pandemic. This produced short-term pain for workers but allowed companies to adapt to the moment and invest in new technologies.
[...]The European approach favoured paying companies to keep workers on their payrolls when lockdowns crippled businesses. The UK furlough scheme paid employees 80% of their wages and lasted more than 18 months.
P - The US had more severe unemployment as a result but laid-off American workers were eligible for newly-expanded unemployment benefits, which sent cash directly into pockets.
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Jan Hatzius, chief economist at Goldman Sachs, said that he believed that the gross domestic product data — which can be volatile and gets revised — could be overstating the divergence between U.S. growth and those in other countries. But to the extent that there is a gap, he does not think government spending has been a big driver of the stronger U.S. performance over the past year.

Instead, a number of economists said, what is happening could owe partly to policy design differences — and luck.

Pandemic layoff responses were not created equal.


During the beginning of the pandemic, America paid workers to stay home. Bob Miller for The New York Times

America took a different approach than its European peers when it came to how it designed policy relief for workers displaced by pandemic shutdowns: It paid workers to stay at home, with one-time checks and expanded unemployment insurance, whereas countries in Europe paid workers to stay in jobs.

The resulting churn as Americans have sorted themselves into new and better jobs could be leading to the stronger productivity growth that the United States is seeing now, said Adam Posen, president of the Peterson Institute for International Economics, a think tank in Washington, D.C.

Ahead of time, “it was not clear which was going to be the better way to go,” Mr. Posen said, noting that many economists had worried that the U.S. approach would actually perform slightly worse. “As always, it is better to be lucky than to be good.”

Proximity to geopolitical problems is also important.

Other advanced economies have also fallen victim to misfortune. European countries have been much more exposed to the aftershocks from Russia’s invasion of Ukraine in 2022, a conflict that has pushed up gas and grocery prices — roiling the business environment and limiting households’ abilities to afford other discretionary products.

While the United States imported relatively little .. https://www.eia.gov/todayinenergy/detail.php?id=51738 .. oil and gas from Russia, that was not the case for Europe. According to a 2023 survey .. https://www.eib.org/en/publications/20230285-econ-eibis-2023-eu .. by the European Investment Bank, 68 percent of European Union businesses had seen their energy prices increase by 25 percent or more, compared with 30 percent of U.S. businesses experiencing the same increase.

Speaking to the U.S. Chamber of Commerce Tuesday morning, Valdis Dombrovskis, the European commissioner for trade, said that Europe had been working to address its dependence on Russian fossil fuel, but that cutting those ties “came at a cost.”

Kristalina Georgieva, the managing director of the I.M.F., told reporters on Thursday that the resilience of the U.S. economy stemmed from several factors — including insulation from volatility in global energy markets.

“There have been good economic forces and winds blowing into U.S. sails,” Ms. Georgieva said.

Now, tensions in the Red Sea that are roiling shipping routes there could have bigger spillover effects for Europe. The disruptions have started to push up shipping prices .. https://www.nytimes.com/2024/01/24/business/red-sea-attacks-shipping-costs.html .. and delay deliveries, particularly for goods traveling to Europe from Asia.

Biden administration officials are monitoring those disruptions, but they are less concerned since they are “a little bit less salient for American supply chains than for other parts of the world,” Ms. Brainard said.

Demographics play a role.

When it comes to the absolute level of growth in the United States versus advanced economies like the euro area and Japan, America also has the benefit of a younger population. The median age .. https://www.cia.gov/the-world-factbook/field/median-age/country-comparison/ .. in the United States is about 38.5, whereas it is 46.7 in Germany and 49.5 in Japan.

Youth helps to make an economy more dynamic .. https://www.imf.org/en/Publications/fandd/issues/2020/03/changing-demographics-and-economic-growth-bloom : Younger adults work more, and families who are having children, buying houses and building lives spend more .. https://www.weforum.org/agenda/2022/10/americans-spend-their-money-by-generation/ .. than retirees.

All of this could matter to policy.

Whatever is causing the divergence, it could matter for economic policy.

The Fed .. https://www.nytimes.com/2024/01/31/business/what-to-watch-at-the-fed-meeting-today.html , the European Central Bank .. https://www.nytimes.com/2024/01/25/business/ecb-eurozone-interest-rates.html .. and the Bank of England .. https://www.nytimes.com/2024/02/01/business/uk-business-interest-rates.html .. are all nudging toward cutting interest rates as they try to avoid undermining growth. Central bankers don’t want to lower rates too early and fail to fully stamp out inflation. They also want to avoid keeping them too high for too long, inflicting more pain than is necessary to wrestle price increases under control.

For the E.C.B. and the Bank of England, slower growth could make that an especially delicate process — policy errors could tip those economies from slight growth to slight contraction. But completing the soft landing is a looming challenge for many central banks.

“At this time of the cycle, there is risk of premature loosening, but there is also risk of keeping interest rates higher for longer,” Ms. Georgieva said. “They now need to land the plane smoothly.”

Jeanna Smialek covers the Federal Reserve and the economy for The Times from Washington. More about Jeanna Smialek

Ana Swanson covers trade and international economics for The Times and is based in Washington. She has been a journalist for more than a decade. More about Ana Swanson

Alan Rappeport is an economic policy reporter, based in Washington. He covers the Treasury Department and writes about taxes, trade and fiscal matters. More about Alan Rappeport

Jim Tankersley writes about economic policy at the White House and how it affects the country and the world. He has covered the topic for more than a dozen years in Washington, with a focus on the middle class. More about Jim Tankersley
A version of this article appears in print on Feb. 5, 2024, Section B, Page 1 of the New York edition with the headline: Economies Worldwide Can’t Match U.S. Growth. Order Reprints | Today’s Paper | Subscribe

https://www.nytimes.com/2024/02/02/business/economy/soft-landing-economy-inflation.html

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